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Jasiek 2009-03-03 18:44

Actually I don't mean just orbital weapon platforms. I mean all firearms and "tools designed to harm or kill".

http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/p.../pr-07-09.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I34FNr_peUk

Darkflame 2009-03-04 22:38

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Actually I don't mean just orbital weapon platforms. I mean all firearms and "tools designed to harm or kill".
Well, good luck with that :P

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http://augmentedblog.files.wordpress...44&h=296&h=312

Yes, that is Schwarzenegger in front of an augmented reality lego box.
I have no idea why.

http://gamesalfresco.com/

Jasiek 2009-03-05 02:13

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/e..._his_face.html

^ totally amazing.


http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/c...f_plastic.html

^absolutely horrible and terrifying.

Kobold 2009-03-06 15:43

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Originally Posted by Darkflame (Post 374389)
http://augmentedblog.files.wordpress...44&h=296&h=312

Yes, that is Schwarzenegger in front of an augmented reality lego box.
I have no idea why.

That picture is somewhat creepy.

Streg 2009-03-06 16:03

angela merkel's fault

Kobold 2009-03-06 16:05

I guess...

Jasiek 2009-03-06 16:19

I would think the poisoned sea is a lot more terryfing then a german and an austrian...

Darkflame 2009-03-07 17:02

http://abstrusegoose.com/strips/iScreener.PNG
:D
Probably will happen too.

Darkflame 2009-03-07 20:13

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Originally Posted by Jasiek (Post 374402)

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/c...f_plastic.html

^absolutely horrible and terrifying.

Makes me glade our oil reserves are finite that does.

ChaosFish 2009-03-07 20:18

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Originally Posted by Darkflame (Post 374485)
:D
Probably will happen too.

Scary!

LBAWinOwns 2009-03-07 20:30

Well, it won't affect us guys so much.

Darkflame 2009-03-07 21:34

Personaly I plan on living for the next decade, dunno about you :P

Or did you mean the oil? That too could be well within our lifetime.

LBAWinOwns 2009-03-07 22:44

I meant:

http://abstrusegoose.com/strips/iScreener.PNG

ChaosFish 2009-03-07 23:17

Yeah, that, Darkflame meant that it would probably happen in the next decade.

LBAWinOwns 2009-03-08 00:25

Yea and I meant it won't happen to us :p

Streg 2009-03-08 02:24

because women aren't for tecnology? :P

LBAWinOwns 2009-03-08 02:42

Nah, cause we/I'll never talk to women, duh!

whoups, I mean it's because we'll all get five stars! :D

Or actually to be honest we'll just get 0.5 stars :(

But that's just because the software can't display 5.5 stars properly!


Ok I just can't go on killing more innocent brain cells from you and me :p

Darkflame 2009-03-08 13:01

Oh, I see, your point was not time based, but rather we are all awsume.
I can buy that :D

Darkflame 2009-03-11 13:35

Cool short film;
http://vimeo.com/3365942?pg=embed&sec=

I can see the future of 3D modeling being exactly like that.

ChaosFish 2009-03-11 16:43

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Originally Posted by Darkflame (Post 374599)
Cool short film;
http://vimeo.com/3365942?pg=embed&sec=

I can see the future of 3D modeling being exactly like that.

Wow.

Jasiek 2009-03-11 17:29

Yeah, saw that, it's cool, really touching in fact. But imho it's the dream of the lazy modeler texture-wise. People just model stuff then search for texture's someone else made instead of painting their own, of course sometimes that's perfectly ok, but I'm talking about people who only model, and can't paint textures.

Darkflame 2009-03-11 17:38

Kinda.
Most textures are just photos made seamless mind you.
Its a bit silly to make a generic brick wall texture from scratch. Also most 3d modeling packages come with a vaste range of textures, and theres shitloads of freeware textures on the net.

Thats assumeing, of course, that by the time we have full AR modeling systems we arnt using mostly procedral textures anyway.

I notice you never saw him UV-mapping anything :P

Jasiek 2009-03-11 18:09

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Originally Posted by Darkflame (Post 374612)
I notice you never saw him UV-mapping anything :P

Well if you look at for instance the Rage tech videos from Id-software, which has unlimited texture size without any hog on performance I'm not really surprised. Uv-mapping mostly just takes the fun out of modeling. It's kinda fun to do it manually when you're a beginner, gets tedious when you have much models to do. I love the "rage" solution. Teturing with "stamps" made from sprites etc.

Odysseus 2009-03-11 18:54

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Originally Posted by Darkflame (Post 374599)
Cool short film;
http://vimeo.com/3365942?pg=embed&sec=

I can see the future of 3D modeling being exactly like that.

Nice. :D
Think it's the Eros/Cupid and Psyche theme. Well the start of the story anyway. :)

Darkflame 2009-03-11 22:10

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Originally Posted by Jasiek (Post 374613)
Well if you look at for instance the Rage tech videos from Id-software, which has unlimited texture size without any hog on performance I'm not really surprised. Uv-mapping mostly just takes the fun out of modeling. It's kinda fun to do it manually when you're a beginner, gets tedious when you have much models to do. I love the "rage" solution. Teturing with "stamps" made from sprites etc.

UV mapping is always tedious and never fun :P
But it is nesscerly even with stuff like rage.
For the moment anyway. As long as 3D Models require the conversion of a irregular skin of a surface to a 2D plan, some form of co-ordinate mapping is needed.
Laying stamps isnt much good for charecter or creature work, and nor is it good for doing, say, a brickwall.(get tedious pretty darn quick).
Aside from that, I think Rage, much like DeepPaint3D, still needs a UVmap, it just means you can paint in-context so it dosnt need to be as good. (that is, when painting between seams it automaticaly will wrap around for you, and all distortions are compansated for).
Still, I'm pretty sure bad UVs will be visible in a Rage game because youd see texture-resolution change irregularly.

Personaly, I like the idea of procedral 3d textures. Youd still want to use stamps and painting for details, but these could act as "bucket fills" in 3d space, which you can adjust and blend. Infinite detail, and always perfect for the geometry.
Its amazing really how much you can do just by blending noise textures on different scales and itterations.

Darkflame 2009-03-16 14:45

Rather creepy AR talk thing -
http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/03/09/...s-at-warm-2009

I dont think that sort of voiceover is going to help dispel peoples skynet fears :P

ChaosFish 2009-03-16 17:22

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Originally Posted by Darkflame (Post 374774)
Rather creepy AR talk thing -
http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/03/09/...s-at-warm-2009

I dont think that sort of voiceover is going to help dispel peoples skynet fears :P

Beautiful video :D (yep, I watched all 17 minutes of it)

That guy stole the words out of my mouth. I didn't really learn anything new from this but it's nice to see someone speaks the truth.

I'm sure he made it look like John Henry from The Terminator on purpose. Also, the guy is from Israel (woo for that) so it's understandable, if his English accent is half as horrible as mine.

Darkflame 2009-03-16 19:42

Ok :P

Btw, this is looking to be a cool AR game:
http://www.yankodesign.com/images/de...gumented_1.jpg
http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/03/1...h-toys-and-ar/

ChaosFish 2009-03-16 19:50

I'm SO gonna play that all the time and I don't care if everybody will point and laugh.

Darkflame 2009-03-16 21:57

Absolutely.
Lego AND AR? And to top it off, that HUD will make you feel like Samus Aran.

Also, it seems AR interest is rising pretty sharply;
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.ph...=iQyT9&u=AV4JM

ChaosFish 2009-03-16 22:28

Woah, Looks like 2009 is a year for AR.

(lol, eh eer for ey aar)

Jasiek 2009-03-17 02:23

Oh, how jolly.

ChaosFish 2009-03-17 02:42

You know, people don't say the word wondrous enough. I'll start using it more often. It's wondrous of you to bring that to my attention!

Jasiek 2009-03-17 03:31

I changed it to jolly though.

Darkflame 2009-03-17 17:53

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/sci...ria/index.html
panspermia-hypothisis supporters will sure as hell be pleased with that.

ChaosFish 2009-03-17 19:43

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Originally Posted by Darkflame (Post 374840)
panspermia-hypothisis supporters will sure as hell be pleased with that.

Doesn't that group include all scientists?

Darkflame 2009-03-17 19:48

Not really, theres still good evidence life developed on earth, or that multiple-seperate developments of life are also possible.

ChaosFish 2009-03-17 19:51

Oh so that's what panspermia is. The Babylon dictionary definition mislead me. (it said "n. theory that life in the universe is spread by spores or bacteria which develop in a suitable environment (Biology)")

Darkflame 2009-03-17 20:17

Well, that is what it is.
But it can be misleading the way its phrased/

Basicaly, the options are;

Did life develope
a) Here (earth)
b) There (somewhere in space)
c) Everywhere. (lots of places in space)

This evidence makes b) and c) more likely. (that is, b and c become more possible, but dosnt make a less likely)

The wikipedia artical has an interesting breakdown of evidence;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia

Darkflame 2009-03-26 22:01

Guess what I'm posting folks! ....yes thats right, more AR stuff :P

The Games Developer Conferance is on at the moment, and a few things are being shown off;

Vuzix Lego AR demo:

http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/03/26/...er-conference/

Important things to note in this demo is its using a real HMD, but not the cool optical one released later this year.
Also, pay attention to the hand, it moves *behind* the lego...probably colour-keying, but still smart to see in real time.

Zombies and some..err.Racing board game?

http://gamesalfresco.com/2009/03/26/...er-conference/

Curious ideas. The Zombie game looks basicaly like an aiming/shooting thing, but still pretty fun. The racing one looks more complex, but not sure whats going on.

Odysseus 2009-04-02 16:00

Okay, not hi-thec. But I would love to see the mars crawlers do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RyodnisVvU

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Darkflame 2009-04-02 18:13

Seen it before but it uber-owns.
I swear, they could make that thing for about 10euros, sale it at 30euros and it would make a fortune.

Jasiek 2009-04-05 02:10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT6RCNBN2S4&fmt=

A really awesome document on panspermia, it has some really staggering "news" about a red rain that fell on india for two months in 2001. And apparently, it was coused by organisms that had no dna in them! Alien bacteria!! Why didn't I ever hear about that? No news, nothing!

EDIT:
Finished watching it. Oh bugger, they did find dna in it, I wonder if it got contaminated.

Darkflame 2009-04-05 03:44

theres lots of confusing storys I read about that, and just about all the possibilitys are weird. (dust swepped up wouldnt be alive, and algea wouldnt tend to be red)

However, combine this with the bacteria found in the upper atmosphere recently :)

Jasiek 2009-04-05 03:49

Yeah, I was thinking about that all the time while watching it. That person btw. uploaded a lot of cool documentaries.

ChaosFish 2009-04-09 18:40

Question for all the Darkflames out there: Where can I download Augmented Reality software? Anything that uses a webcam...

Darkflame 2009-04-09 18:47

Well, if you want to make your own AR things in flash, theres this tutorial;
http://www.gotoandlearn.com/play?id=105

FlashDevelop and all the libs are free, you dont need macrom..adobe flash itself.

I played with the papervision/Flar set up before that tutorial came out and got a working tracking, but my own models never worked correctly.
(despite them appearing fine in google earth and sketchup, which used the same format).


If you just want stuff to play with using a webcam though, theres dozens of random adverts and other stuff. Some car company had one recently where you could drive it around your desk and it left paint trails. Youll probably find links on the Augmented Reality games facebook group.

ChaosFish 2009-04-09 19:32

Thanks, but I was hoping for something simple... my little cousin got all excited about AR and asked me where to download AR software.

Darkflame 2009-04-09 20:44

But what exactly do you mean by AR software? what do you want to do?

ChaosFish 2009-04-09 21:26

I found this and sent him. I meant software that can add virtual objects in a 3D space generated from the scene photographed by a webcam. Like for example I remember I once saw some video with someone who uses some software to make their head a duck or something.


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