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David 2008-12-10 14:08

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I made a demo called "Little Warcraf Adventure" based on the documentation I found on the Magic Ball Network, thanks to all for writing it

You have to check the box for viewing in high quality in youtube, don't know why

Hope you like it !

Kitarii 2008-12-10 15:13

Heh, that's cool, although I notice the scenes aren't actually active...
How did you do that?
Actually replace the Twinsen model or just some video editing?

LBAWinOwns 2008-12-10 16:40


Yea, I wanna know how you did it too!

Streg 2008-12-10 19:54

hehe nice

RGaspar 2008-12-10 20:15

Weird. But cool. Tell us your secrets!

David 2008-12-10 21:27

Well there is no tricks... It took me years to do it
It's not image or video manipulation, it's a video capture of a real time engine which can import LBA maps and World of Warcraft characters.

LBAWinOwns 2008-12-10 21:28

Are you kidding ?

Kitarii 2008-12-10 21:36

Sounds dodgy...

LuKeXhunter 2008-12-10 23:00

Man...It's awesome....if you be able to put the Twinsen in the game(or modify the actually 3d models of warcraft) YOU'LL BE A LEGEND :D....And A Question...When you'll release a beta?

ChaosFish 2008-12-10 23:03


Originally Posted by david38 (Post 369776)
Well there is no tricks... It took me years to do it
It's not image or video manipulation, it's a video capture of a real time engine which can import LBA maps and World of Warcraft characters.

It's a hoax right? Import LBA maps? Many years? Only just recently Zink and Alexfont made it possible to edit LBA maps.

Zerath^ 2008-12-10 23:07

well guys, he could be telling the truth since he just joined and may not have known about Zink and Alexfont work.

Kitarii 2008-12-10 23:17

Yeah but the scenes aren't even active, it smells fake to me.
Sorry if it's not, just don't want everyone (and myself) to get their hopes up.

Kobold 2008-12-10 23:36

Come on guys, the characters move like Twinsen, that's fair enough. :tup:

Bot13 2008-12-11 00:14

Interesting anyhow. Can't wait for the answer.

Lightwing 2008-12-11 04:23

Well, the camera is constantly moving, which isn't something LBA's capable of. The characters appear to be rendered differently, which suggests a different rendering engine?

Can't tell from these youtube vids.

LBAWinOwns 2008-12-11 11:09


It's a lot harder to make an editor and just import the grids. Not to mention that Alexfont and Zink has done the documentation too (I think they made it). And Zink has had his LBArchitect import the grids.

Don't get me wrong, this is an amazing work. But It's probably much less effort than to create LBArchitect (especially if this WoW/LBA engine used code from LBArchitect). I might be wrong though, importing the 3D WoW models might be harder than I think :).

David 2008-12-11 11:27

Yes as you guessed I used Alexandre Fontura and Zink's documentation :
NOTHING would have been possible without these pages.
The code for loading and displaying LBA maps is done from scratch and as you seen, the physics are very basic
The code for loading and displaying warcraft models is a LOT inspired from :
I haven't any intention to use original twinsen's character, nor trying to use original model architecture. We are talking about prehistoric technologies.
But if somebody has a fully animated, weighted and textured model compatible whith Milkshape or Blender I can make an effort.

DarkOnistar 2008-12-11 22:16

Hmm.. This idea crossed my mind for a video idea, but I decided to scrap it. (didn't make it).

Any chance of getting, the LBA model viewer to have animated characters moving on the spot (as opposed to them flying off screen)

I was thinking about making a Machinima for LBA. It sounds fun and like how they do WoW Machinima's its quite possible with the things we have now.
The annoying thing is, that the lba model viewer lets the characters move, when I'd really preffer if they actually just ran on the spot.. (or whatever the animation is).

.. I did say to a few people that I would make another video, and if it wasn't for all my recent assignments in my Engineering course. I would of gone tried improvising or look for a premade solution myself. (which I don't think there is currently).

David 2008-12-12 11:06

where can i upload the binaries ?

Necdilzor 2008-12-12 16:13

Try mediafire

David 2008-12-12 17:00

binaires and videos here -->
seems i have to correct something, it only works with GeForce !
I have 60 fps on my Geforce and 0.2 fps on an ATI ...
I suppose it's because of antialiasing opengl extension
tell me how it works for you guys, i'll soon release a version without anti aliasing.

David 2008-12-13 21:58

It had nothing to do with antialiasing, I corrected the bug
Take a look at the version 1.1 here

Kitarii 2008-12-13 22:18

Why did you delete your post and then repost one exactly the same?

David 2008-12-13 22:42

I did it to see if the signature was working ... sorry for the molesting

Necdilzor 2008-12-14 23:02

I opened the binaries and they crashed. What's the problem dude?

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