Censorship of links

[Gustav Sweden]

lol, I wouldnt wanna be in that situation. Did you have your pants down? I read in a forum about a guy who said that when he was 16 he had been sitting in front of his comp with headphones/loud music wanking and when he looked up he saw a glass of chocolate milk and some sandwiches standing on the table... Meaning taht his mother had walked in and out of the room without him noticing it while he was wanking.

[ChaosFish]

slighhhhhhhhhhhhhly off topic.

[SpaceGuitarist]

i think that the kind of pics found in the "bra thread" is enough already of what we should allow...

[Gustav Sweden]

I've decided to work actively against the sexification of the Magicball Network Forums. Therefor I've become pro-sanity! I demand a referendum in the shape of a poll on whether we should apply a PERMANENT BAN on pornography and pornographic links in the MBN Forums! Nothing can stop the MBN Christian Conservative party!

Now, please join my party if you agree with me a little, or else I've done this logo for nothing!

Because the poster isn't forcing people to see anything, and also, if he doesn't post a link to porn or whatever, it's not like the little kids here can't get porn themselves, so it makes no difference.

I just said the censorship should be more lenient, not that we should start porn ftp's.

Flipflopper!

[Reek]

Oh, fuck off, lol.

[Atresica]

I'll join, I'll join!
I wanna be conservative for a day!

[Neko]

Not on a serious note, but I actually finished the game! Was damn tough to get the lil girl come!

I like to state that I'm not for cencoring links as these, because it seems little harmfull and I rather see a cencorship of violence. I think that seeing gunfights on tv, people getting beaten and kids playing with toyguns is a lot more likely to make them think violence is normal and in a way acceptable and potentially harming them. On the other hand, I don't think a game like this is harming, because if the parents of today did their job they would have given their kids the info they need on sex, and then this game would not shock at all.

But as I said before, I do respect the rules here even though I have a different view.

[Panda]

So what if they're underage? They don't HAVE to click the link. Especially if it is put in a "code" bracket thing, [mature] for example. I know I saw naked person before I was 16, and I wasn't offended! If you put it in a bracket like thing, where you click the writing to reveal a link or image, then it should be allowed. If you get offended by tits or whatever (and are a little fassy) then don't click the link! Simple, surely?

[Gustav Sweden]

I think that it would hurt the forum spirit a little if we let puberted boys setting the tone.

I'll join, I'll join!
I wanna be conservative for a day!

Nice! Now you have to add one of the three things I have in my signature to yours.

[Atresica]

Originally Posted by Pandy

So what if they're underage? They don't HAVE to click the link. Especially if it is put in a "code" bracket thing, [mature] for example. I know I saw naked person before I was 16, and I wasn't offended! If you put it in a bracket like thing, where you click the writing to reveal a link or image, then it should be allowed. If you get offended by tits or whatever (and are a little fassy) then don't click the link! Simple, surely?

If you want adult content, why don't you just go to a website providing it? Why should the MBN provide your inner needs?

[Lightwing]

Neko: Does the flash have a big "18+" logo at the beggining? If so, why do you say that it's "innocent?" Clearly, the creator did not mean for underaged kids to view it.

The thing is, we don't know if kids have been tought about sex and can maturely handle it. Porn, as you know it, tends to give people the wrong idea of sex and if the kids aren't educated their minds are more likely to become perverted. The flash you talk about is somewhat descreet, but I can see how it could have certain affects on a kid.

Pandy: Nudity and pornography are two different things. We want to prohibit (not censor) porn on the forum and allow non-sexual nudity.

[Medur]

Originally Posted by Lightwing

Porn, as you know it, tends to give people the wrong idea of sex and if the kids aren't educated their minds are more likely to become perverted.

Excuse me, but what is the "wrong" idea of sex? And what is the "right" one? I didn't know God published that book already.

[Gustav Sweden]

Oh come on, porn objectifies the woman and gives people the wrong idea of sex. It's no secret..

[Lightwing]

Originally Posted by Medur

Excuse me, but what is the "wrong" idea of sex? And what is the "right" one? I didn't know God published that book already.

Oh, I don't know, maybe thinking that women are walking-talking sex toys, could very well BE a wrong idea!!!

Thinking that it's O.K. to screw people left and right, could be too!

And in case of hentai: "Rape is a good way to express your inner love for someone" is ALSO, not a right idea!!

[Panda]

Originally Posted by Gustav Sweden

I think that it would hurt the forum spirit a little if we let puberted boys setting the tone.

As opposed to wankers who think they are mature?

Originally Posted by Atresica

If you want adult content, why don't you just go to a website providing it? Why should the MBN provide your inner needs?

I'm not asking for the MBN to become a porn dump, I'm asking for less censorship. Why shouldn't the MBN allow links to such things? Most other forums do, if appropriately titled, and if appropriately "hidden" using the appropriate code tags. Its not a case of wanting adult content.

Originally Posted by Lightwing

Oh, I don't know, maybe thinking that women are walking-talking sex toys, could very well BE a wrong idea!!!
Thinking that it's O.K. to screw people left and right, could be too!
And in case of hentai: "Rape is a good way to express your inner love for someone" is ALSO, not a right idea!

Yes it is a wrong idea. But, whatever that link that Neko posted... unless you have a weak mind, then it won't change your opinion on sex. Nor will it induce sexism. This isn't a case of people screwing left or right either. I'm not talking only about porn/nudity. Whatever the mods don't seem to like, they do away with it, even if the majority do agree. I wonder where the problem lies there. I'm looking at Atresica and Chaosfish especially. you both have a reputation for editing and deleting whatever hits a nerve.

[Medur]

Porn gives as much an impression that women are walking-talking sex toys as it gives an impression that men are walking-talking sex toys. Why is it only bad for the women?

I don't see _anything_ wrong in porn. And there are many women who don't either, there're many women who like porn. For an example, search for sex and porn related communities in orkut and you'll find many - you'll also find that like 50% or more of their users are WOMEN. They don't seem to be offended by it, otherwise they wouldn't watch it. Why? Well, maybe because it turns them on? That's the whole point, you know. They have the right to be sexual, and you don't have the right to tell them how.

"Thinking that it's O.K. to screw people left and right, could be too!", again I don't see why. People should do whatever they want to do in sex, whatever turns them on. If objectifying each other is one of those things, what is the problem?

Oh, and I think hentai is fuked up indeed.

[ChaosFish]

"Atresica and ChaosFish" are doing their duty as moderators, and not what "hits a nerve".

And for your information Pandy, I don't think we should censor links.

[Gustav Sweden]

Originally Posted by Medur

Porn gives as much an impression that women are walking-talking sex toys as it gives an impression that men are walking-talking sex toys. Why is it only bad for the women?

I don't see _anything_ wrong in porn. And there are many women who don't either, there're many women who like porn. For an example, search for sex and porn related communities in orkut and you'll find many - you'll also find that like 50% or more of their users are WOMEN. They don't seem to be offended by it, otherwise they wouldn't watch it. Why? Well, maybe because it turns them on? That's the whole point, you know. They have the right to be sexual, and you don't have the right to tell them how.

"Thinking that it's O.K. to screw people left and right, could be too!", again I don't see why. People should do whatever they want to do in sex, whatever turns them on. If objectifying each other is one of those things, what is the problem?

Oh, and I think hentai is fuked up indeed.

Because of the "mainstream" porn most people of my age and under today have a twisted view on sex.

There is a reason that the majority of the consumers of "mainstream" porn are men.

[Gustav Sweden]

As opposed to wankers who think they are mature?

Take it easy, man!

[SpaceGuitarist]

Originally Posted by SpaceGuitarKid

"..and so, a peasent from the crowd named Anakin stands up in the crowd and make his protest speech about the current cruel spanish El_muerte dictature. And from now on, the kingdom power shall fall, and soon, just like Pompeii and Herculanum, end." *transforms into a crow and flies away*

*transforms into a human again* "hm.. now this thread have already 2 pages, and so the so obvious cliche humans like to do appears again: two opposite ideas arguing if its wrong or right. You see what that peasent started? tsk tsk"

[Medur]

Originally Posted by Gustav Sweden

Because of the "mainstream" porn most people of my age and under today have a twisted view on sex.

That's what I'm bitching about. What a "twistable view on sex" is is something very arguable.

There is a reason that the majority of the consumers of "mainstream" porn are men.

Yes. Most men "need" porn more often than women do + because of people like you women that like porn are seem as whores by society and therefore consume less.

[Gustav Sweden]

Not really, not really, why would men "need" it more often than women? I don't see women who like porn as whores!

Twistable view on sex=You watch much porn before you ever had sex, and therefor you think that sex is like in porn movies. Ya know what Im sayin?

[Gustav Sweden]

And again, nothing's wrong with sex. Porn gives you the wrong idea only if you were given the wrong education.

Not really, many many youngsters today have a wrong idea, despite the education they've gotten.

What a shock, most of you are christian.
"No! Lenny! I'm an atheist!"
Please, every second teenager calls himself an atheist these days. You still remain with the subliminal (more or less) messages you were given as a child.

I get your message, but you don't mean the religion Christianity, but the Christian culture. You can be an atheist but you are still affected by the Christian culture that you live in.

[Panda]

I still fail to see what the problem is. Linking to one slightly explicit image will not fuck anyone up. Can you get that through your skulls? Especially if you need to "CLICK HERE TO SEE" it. Christ on a bike, you people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

[Gustav Sweden]

I am afraid, no matter if you call me "wanker" or not, that we will have a worse atmosphere here if there are porn links everywhere.