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Old 2013-05-30, 02:16
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Cool, didn't know about animated PNGs. Works on Firefox 21. Why was PNG rejected? It's awesome! (Someone here has used PNGs for game sprites, right? )

Zee, those emoticons are amazing You took me by surprise with the ninja one, and the thermo one looks much better now ^^. I hope you can get in contact with EL soon .
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Old 2013-05-30, 09:51
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...(Someone here has used PNGs for game sprites, right? )
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Yes. Proof of png sprites.
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Old 2013-05-30, 11:10
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Old 2013-05-30, 11:14
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It wasn't D-day yet, so the letter fell off the hyperlink.
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Old 2013-05-30, 17:14
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All it shows is a grid. Is it supposed to be animated? Cause it doesn't work in my browser.
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Old 2013-05-30, 17:26
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That animated png is quite cool. You could never do anything so detailed with a gif
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Old 2013-05-30, 18:24
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All it shows is a grid. Is it supposed to be animated? Cause it doesn't work in my browser.
The link I posted above is a map editor. Assuming it works fine in your browser (I try hard to keep it cross-browser compatible), it will allow you to click any of the categories at the top, any subtype at the right that shows up when you do, and then place objects of that subtype on the map. I've explained it in this thread, but I merely mentioned it for the hundreds of PNGs it uses
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Old 2013-05-31, 02:46
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Now I understand your avatar, Jack. (?)
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Old 2013-05-31, 04:02
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Now I understand your avatar, Jack. (?)
OMG that's true! You just solved one of life's biggest mysteries ever
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The link I posted above is a map editor. Assuming it works fine in your browser (I try hard to keep it cross-browser compatible), it will allow you to click any of the categories at the top, any subtype at the right that shows up when you do, and then place objects of that subtype on the map. I've explained it in this thread, but I merely mentioned it for the hundreds of PNGs it uses
Well I AM using my mobile browser which sucks btw. Probably explains why I can't see animated PNGs.

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Wait. Jack's avatar MOVES?!??!???!! Son of a bitch . *mind officially blown*
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Old 2013-05-31, 09:31
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Well I AM using my mobile browser which sucks btw. Probably explains why I can't see animated PNGs.
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Well that explains it, I cannot develop for mobile devices and it cannot work on it either. I urge you to try it on a pc, it's really nice

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Wait. Jack's avatar MOVES?!??!???!! Son of a bitch . *mind officially blown*
No, it doesn't. I was talking about PNGs, not animating PNGs
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Old 2013-05-31, 11:57
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My last unreplied PM to El dates back from 2012-09-20.
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But, if I may ask, for what purpose would GIFs still be used, if/when all browsers support animated PNGs? If I'm not mistaken, GIFs are lossy, and PNGs lossless. So if the latter'd be animated, and all supported, wouldn't that obsolete gifs completely?
Most importantly of all; PNGs can have animated alpha transparency. In GIF form, my randomreviewshow logo looks horrible.

Its absolutely crazy we still use gifs
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Old 2013-05-31, 13:50
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Most importantly of all; PNGs can have animated alpha transparency. In GIF form, my randomreviewshow logo looks horrible.

Its absolutely crazy we still use gifs
Well, it's not easy to get everyone on the same page when it comes to standardization. What the format can do is only one part of the problem. I'm sure we'll get there eventually.
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Old 2013-05-31, 18:17
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Most importantly of all; PNGs can have animated alpha transparency.
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GIF? What's that!?
After that, if it were for me, PNG would be the only graphic* format on the internet... Man it's fully loaded


*)graphics != video
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Indeed. Arguably theres still use's for Jpeg though; it can do variable quality that PNG cant.
So if you really want the smallest sizes, its usefull.

But other then that, yes, PNG owns all.

Still, ITS NOT ENOUGH :P
I want a format like PNG but...

...also has arbitrary extra channels for x/y image distortion.
So you could have a image of a bottle...and whereever you put it, it distorts the background correctly :P

I'm greedy..I want a format that can do everything.
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As Twinsen always says... "no... not yet ."
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Old 2013-05-31, 18:53
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Well I guess DF, that distortion isn't really within the scope of graphics anymore, or would you think it is?
If distortion would make it possible to render a round object that has a depth but allows see through, it would be just a small step to think about light reflection as well, such that if you'd move that bottle next to a button, it would reflect the button and it's pressed state as well.

Or think about lighting from outside the graphic, so that the bottle will be darker if rendered underneath a menubar, and lighter when further down the page.

And what about infrared?


...But we were talking about emoticons.. let's get back to that.
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After having used your icons a bit (two times ) I noticed that some of them aren't on the same levels as others
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See what I mean ? Their dimensions aren't the same... For the space on the right of the whistleing one, it doesn't really matter, but do you think you could remake them so that they are on the same height ?

(Or maybe I'm just too perfectionins and am the only one bothered by this )
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(Or maybe I'm just too perfectionins and am the only one bothered by this )
Nop, it's not your or Zee's fault. This has something to do with the differences the board has between normal images/smileys and attachments
If you look at the sourcecode, you'll see the smileys have the "inlineimg" class, the new emoticons have not.

The misalignment is immediately solved as soon as they are installed as actual smileys.
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Whoa, neat !

The ponytail of the ninja is still a bit higher though.
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Aye the ninja is a bit taller overall than the usual smiley, it is therefor centered vertically. This cannot be helped
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UPDATE: Good news!

I heard from El today and he said that he will be able to add the new emoticons. So if there is any particular ones that you guys want, be sure to tell me and attach a visual example so I can make sure I get the expression correct.

Thanks everyone!

@Polaris: once the new emoticons are added they should be more leveled with the others. Like Jack mentioned, they are on different levels now because they are still a seperate image in an image tag.
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UPDATE: Good news!

I heard from El today and he said that he will be able to add the new emoticons. So if there is any particular ones that you guys want, be sure to tell me and attach a visual example so I can make sure I get the expression correct.

Thanks everyone!

@Polaris: once the new emoticons are added they should be more leveled with the others. Like Jack mentioned, they are on different levels now because they are still a seperate image in an image tag.
can you make a laughing FunFrock one?
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