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Old 2007-01-27, 16:42
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Visual Basic Users

Who here programs with Visual Basic (not the .NET variations, 5.0/6.0)?

Let me know how much experience you have with it and any links to projects youve made with it.
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Old 2007-01-27, 17:50
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I made many things with VB4/5/6, but none are online really.

I switched over to Delphi a few years back, tis only slightly harder then VB, and is much faster.

As for my expirence, I think I can pretty much do anything, as long as there isnt advanced graphics involved.
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Old 2007-01-27, 18:41
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I did some useless stuff in VB 5 and 6, and now have switched to firstly .NET 2003 and now VB 2005.
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Old 2007-01-27, 19:53
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Same as Darkflame, except no experience with databases.
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Old 2007-01-27, 23:15
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(Visual)Basic is one tremendous piece of shit of a programming language. It does more wrong than good.
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Old 2007-01-28, 02:57
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It's fine for small programs.

I use delphi now Thanks to Darkflame really
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Old 2007-01-28, 03:55
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Hmm... Delphi seems really popular at MBN...

Me, Zink, Dan2552, DF (these one I know use it...).
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Old 2007-01-28, 03:56
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I wrote some VBscript once, because part of the script was already made in that language. I kinda learned it on the fly, copy&pasting from Google searches. In my experience the syntax and function names are quite fux0red and it doesn't appeal to me at all. I stick to Perl for scripts (extremely portable; very suitable for multi-platform implementations) and I don't write much actual applications.
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Old 2007-01-28, 06:23
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(Visual)Basic is one tremendous piece of shit of a programming language. It does more wrong than good.
Disagree.
Its not fast but its very easy, and quick, to code in.

Its extremely good for database work, front ends, scanning, or interpreting data. Not everyone needs to learn about lib's, includes et all to get the job they need done.
Different things have different solutions. Microsoft dumps VB code into its applications (Access, Excel) because its suitable for the stuff most users would need.
Likewise, youd be crazy to try to make a game in it.
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Old 2007-01-28, 12:51
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so what's the nice thing about delphi in regards to ehh c++ or java?
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Old 2007-01-28, 14:02
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Delphi compiles to native code. It's fairly easy to program in. Runtime performance is usually close to C++ and sometimes close to C. Binairy compatible with C\C++ libraries, you just need the interfaces.
The language is easy to learn, very fast compiler (simply because of the way the language is constructed), it's way faster than any C\C++ or Java compiler.
The IDE is very good (actually, some Delphi versions had a crappy IDE, they tried to mimick VisualStudio at some point), specially the UI creation part.
No pointer hell (unless you want to).

Ofcourse there are also some downsides. The most important would be the small popularity compared to C++ or Java. And with the creation of C# it lost even more ground (just like VisualBasic, but that was a good thing ) Ofcourse there's also Delphi.NET that produces .NET code.
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Old 2007-01-28, 18:00
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Also, Delphi has some quite nice 3d libs for it;
http://glscene.sourceforge.net/wikka/HomePage
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Old 2007-01-29, 15:43
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hmm I'm studying information engineering (just the first year though) and we get Java a lot, i'm also myself trying some visual studio projects, fairly simple still.

For my own fun I think learning a more powerfull language like C++ or C might be interesting. But there's sooo many options, I think i'll just experiment a bit with a few of them.
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Old 2007-01-29, 18:37
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depends on how you define powerfull

In some cases Java is way more powerfull than C\C++ simply because it's much easier to develop in and interfacting with other libraries is easier. For C or C++ you have to do much more yourself.

ps, wtf is information enginering?
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Old 2007-01-29, 18:39
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the english name for informatica I guess...
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Old 2007-01-29, 18:48
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They change the name often
Dunno why ,something with the British education system, they are obsessed with renaming stuff.
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no it's not.
Computer Sciene is english for "informatica"
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Old 2007-01-29, 19:03
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well they call it information engineering here at the hogeschool utrecht. Maybe there's a difference; information engeneering as we get it is based mostly on databases, java, apllications for companies. whereas technische informatica is more based on embedded systems.

That's a very broad and simplified way of saying that....
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Old 2007-01-29, 22:31
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The contents of 'computer science' differs per university; some include more business oriented courses while others go deeper into the technical or theoretical sides. Maybe they started calling it 'information engineering' because 'informatica' (computer science) sounds too nerdy, I've heard of other subjects changing their name - preferably to something vague, cool-sounding and English - with a positive effect on the number of new student registrations.

On a side note, my university offers information sciences (informatiekunde) next to computer science (informatica). Yours might be a version of the first, or maybe a combined derivative of the two.
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Old 2007-01-29, 23:58
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aren't they more like specialisms?

like I'm going Software Enginering within Computer Science, but you could also do Embedded Software, or Formal Methods and Tools, etc. It's all Computer Science.
There is also a more business oriented Computer Science thing. But that's most like Business Administration with a major computer science part, I think it's called Business Informatics (or something).

anyway, purely translated 'Informatica' is Computer Science. Everybody agrees? ok.
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OBrasilo has gout sources of all his lba editing tools on his website
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