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Old 2006-05-19, 11:31
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Do Twinsunians sleep?

Due to the governement question, another question came up, do Twinsunians sleep?
I mean, the planet rotates between two suns so there's no night. However they have beds, can they sleep with daylight, or are they always awake?
I know there is no answer, but opinions...
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Old 2006-05-19, 11:45
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Why would they have beds if they never used them? My personal opinion is that they indeed sleep. There's nothing that says that you have to sleep nighttime, anyway. Seeing as Twinsunians are not really human, they probably have entirely different habits.

Besides, haven't we seen sleeping Twinsunians in-game? I can't really recall when, right now, but I am quite sure there is such a scene somwhere.
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Old 2006-05-19, 11:48
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If they didn't sleep for a week, their brain would have been quite a mess, which results that we don't know what that still-awake guy is talking about, knowing he's stressed, homocidial or suicidial. Ever seen the bed in the houses, even in Twinsen's one?
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Old 2006-05-19, 11:49
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Yes we did : in LBA1 sleeping guards , in LBA2 sleeping guards under the Hacienda , at the shuttle base
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Old 2006-05-19, 11:53
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Why would they have beds if they never used them?
For sex?
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Old 2006-05-19, 12:01
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Who said they have sex? Maybe they're self-replicative? Asexual reproduction, perhaps?

Oh well, on a more serious note, I don't believe they have beds for the sole purpose of sex. Besides, as Quetch stated, we see a sleeping guard in LBA1. Even though the guard may be a clone, he's still an Twinsunian
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Old 2006-05-19, 12:09
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They have night, I'm sure of it, becouse we see night in the movies.
Maybe the moon blocks the sunlight enough to create a sort of twilight. Or maybe the hotter hemipshere produces clouds that cover the sky within constant periods of time? Or maybe one of the suns is smaller, and ir rotates around the bigger one, leaving one side of Twinsun unlit, and it can move around a certain axis that will move the other one into the unlit zone? Who knows ? Or it's everything at the same time? Or maybe it's just pure magic. I'm sure they have night, they have beds, and they have sex - and you can see that they have, simply by looking at Twinsens smile when he was closing the shutters at the end of LBA1 .
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Old 2006-05-19, 12:19
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What more interest me is they use toilets? They definitely wash and bath, but there are no toilets in the whole game. Yet we can be certain that zeelishian animals poop... Zeelish is so alien...
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Old 2006-05-19, 13:53
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We know that the animals defecate, as one can run around in animal poop in both games.
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Ah yes! The horse poop in the stable!
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Old 2006-05-19, 14:42
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They have night, I'm sure of it, becouse we see night in the movies.
*cough*
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...924413&pl=true
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...758644&pl=true
(same 3D scene from different viewpoints)


(Its amazing how often i get a chance to post those vids)
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Old 2006-05-19, 14:51
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Ah, I think I recall having seen those videos before, but I had forgotten them. They make sense.

Well then, problem solved. They have night and most likely do sleep.
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Old 2006-05-19, 14:56
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I can never get those vidoes really I just can't see where the day turns into night. On the first one it looks like they're still in the same axis, the second one I get, But I can't imagine it somehow...
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but did the makers of the game really think all this orbiting sun stuff through that much?
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Old 2006-05-19, 17:07
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Probably not
My idea only proves its possible.

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I can never get those vidoes really I just can't see where the day turns into night. On the first one it looks like they're still in the same axis, the second one I get, But I can't imagine it somehow...
It is hard to imagine, because its to do with the curvature of the planet obscureing the small suns. So when your looking away you dont really visualise that.
I sware those are from the exact same file, without any animation changes

However, its not really a night as such...both of a brief sunset.
And even that will only apply to some regions of the world.
(polar would be in daylight constantly, of course, and if you were ontop of the Himalayans,due to the hight you almost always be seeing both suns at the same time )
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Old 2006-05-19, 19:02
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And if you were ontop of the Himalayans,due to the hight you almost always be seeing both suns at the same time )
And you would get fried or something. Thank god it's a magical world, couse if ti weren't it would make my head hurt a lot. A real life planet between two suns like that would be a scorched desert...
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And you would get fried or something. Thank god it's a magical world, couse if ti weren't it would make my head hurt a lot. A real life planet between two suns like that would be a scorched desert...
depends what the Twinsun atmosphere's made up of. I think
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Or how strong the suns are, actually.
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Old 2006-05-19, 21:25
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And how close they are to the planet. The other sun would have to be far away, like in the 2010: A space odyssey, when Jupiter changed into a small star.
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Old 2006-05-19, 21:43
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The suns are much,much,much smaller then ours, imo.
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What more interest me is they use toilets? They definitely wash and bath, but there are no toilets in the whole game. Yet we can be certain that zeelishian animals poop... Zeelish is so alien...
At the army base at LBA 1, which have the
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Old 2006-05-19, 23:30
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Aaah, yes, I forgot about that. But houses don't have toilets. Maybe they do it outside and think it's unsanitary to do it indoors ??

But if the suns, no matter how small, were so close to the planet they would probably rip it to shreds with their gravitation ? Not to mention the solar flares and protuberances(right word in english?) that would probably touch the atmosphere, and the solar winds that would probably strip the planet from the atmosphere itself. The amount of radiation would be deadly. No living thing, based on carbon and water, and breathing with air (and they most certainly breath with air, becouse air is blue and the atmosphere of Twinsun is also blue)no matter how alien, could live there. Of course if it was a real, non magical, non fictional world .
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The entire time system of the LBA worlds is undoubtedly something we can only find out about by asking Fred himself. So do it!
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Old 2006-05-20, 03:55
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If fred thought of it.
Fred is a skilled game creator, he probably didnt worry about all the mad fans trying to get to grips on non-gameplay details

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But if the suns, no matter how small, were so close to the planet they would probably rip it to shreds with their gravitation ? Not to mention the solar flares and protuberances(right word in english?) that would probably touch the atmosphere, and the solar winds that would probably strip the planet from the atmosphere itself. The amount of radiation would be deadly. No living thing, based on carbon and water, and breathing with air (and they most certainly breath with air, becouse air is blue and the atmosphere of Twinsun is also blue)no matter how alien, could live there. Of course if it was a real, non magical, non fictional world .
a) The suns provide light, warmth and heat.
That dosnt mean they are like our suns in any way.
Heck, they could be hollow, or light. Maybe they are burning globes, but the burning isnt based on fusion.

b) No evidence of solar flares.

c) Radiation? Again, we dont know there is any.
And famously cockroachs can servive radition. Its not completely impossible for a life form to have evolved in radition.

In fact, it might have speeded up evolution, itself helping to encourage radition-proof creatures.

Also, on earth, there is huge fields protecting us from most of it.
Maybe Twinsun has even stronger fields.
Maybe the stela enity has an absolutely obscene magnetic field strength.

Twinsen is an imaginary magical world.
But its lazy to use "magic" as an excuse for everything...its soo much more fan to make up real-world explanations for stuff
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By the way, I just found the answer for my question if they sleep. Of course they are sleeping, Twinsun is in Prison because of a dream, of course there are daydreams, but not like the dream he had (as we can see in the video)

Another question, was the story for LBA2 already clear? Because in Lba1 in the town of principal island, in the secret chamber under the sign of sendell, there is a board€, like in every other canalization, where you can read: emerald moon street.
As much as I can remember is the emerald moon never mentioned again in Lba1.

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