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Old 2004-11-19, 17:28
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Question Backing up my files

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My beautiful songs collection has recently reached 7,000 songs, and to celebeate the event, I decided that it's really time to back up all the files .


However, I know almost nothing about backing up.... So, can anyone recommend me please a good (and preferabbly cheap ) way to back up a large amount of files?
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Old 2004-11-19, 17:30
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Wasn't it the program 'ghost' that did giant backups..?
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Old 2004-11-19, 18:28
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Use WinRAR, back up all your music files into a RAR archive with highest compression. This operation may take some time though.

That's the best way I know
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Old 2004-11-19, 18:30
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Buy a cheap second HDD (or even better dig out an old one) and screw the messing about with compression. Alternatively I have an unused tape drive - shame its a bit far to post

You could also try using Windows Backup utility - or if you are feeling particularly flash you could create some variety of RAID 1 or RAID 5 system
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Old 2004-11-19, 18:33
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Also, in WinRAR you can split the RAR file to equal sized parts (let's say 700mb each part) and burn them on a few CD's. Whenever you want to restore it, copy all RARs from all discs you burnt back to your computer and unrar them. Then you'll have your files back.
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Use WinRAR, back up all your music files into a RAR archive with highest compression. This operation may take some time though.

That's the best way I know
What's the use of Raring mp3's?
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Old 2004-11-19, 18:35
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Didn't think of that.

So use "store" (not highest compression) and split to 700mb each part. That way it won't compress it, but make a splitted archive which you can burn on a few discs.
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Old 2004-11-19, 18:49
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Nero has a built in CD backup feature. The trouble is that CD burning is quite slow (both to write and access) plus once you have backed up you need to chuck everything (unless you're careful and use incremental backups) next time you back up. With a RAID 1 system the backup would be constantly happening so you wouldn't need to worry
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morshem just wants to backup his files, he doesn't want to setup an expensive and possibly complex RAID array. And it's easier to just grab a bunch of CD-Rs than to find buy a new (or old) HDD and install it.
Creating split RAR files and burning them would be harmless and easy.
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If you plan to get a CD-MP3 player (freestyle/stereo/car) you could just skip the RARing and burn the files as they are.
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No, I don't want you to buy expensive things, but a DVD-Burner is just such a bless from god, I got one right here. and a DVD kosts +/- 5 'euro's', (don't know howmuch you should pay for it) but you can probably backup all your mp3's on one or two of those DVD's
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Old 2004-11-19, 20:19
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Bottom line:
Download WinRAR.
After installed, "Add to archive" the folder with all your songs.
In the parameters: choose "Store" as compression method. choose "RAR" as Archive format. In "split to volumes, bytes", enter "734003200". Press OK.
This will make an archive with a few parts, 700mb each.

Burn each part into separate cd.

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Old 2004-11-19, 21:03
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morshem just wants to backup his files, he doesn't want to setup an expensive and possibly complex RAID array. And it's easier to just grab a bunch of CD-Rs than to find buy a new (or old) HDD and install it.
Creating split RAR files and burning them would be harmless and easy.

I was mostly musing - but backing up using winzip and cds is incredibly inefficient if you plan to backup on a more regular basis from now on. I will certainly be setting up a SATA RAID 1 array (drive mirroring) or better next time I upgrade as I had a very bad hard disk crah recently which has reminded me of the importance of backup
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Old 2004-11-19, 21:10
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I don't see the use in creating RAR archives for MP3. The amount of space saved by compression, even on max, is very minimal since MP3 is already heavily compressed by itself. Really, it's not worth it. Also, say you have 10 CD's with a 10-parts archive of 700 MB each, and you lost one CD, the rar would be heavily damaged.* And to access the actual MP3's you'd need harddisk space to go through a long decompression time in order to finally have your MP3's playable again.

(* if you lost a data cd with a file compilation instead of using splitted RAR archives you would lose about the same amount yes, but at least you wouldn't get extraction errors etc.)

No, I'd suggest to burn them just as files on a data cd compilation if you were going to burn it to a bunch of cd-r's. You'll be able to store about 150~200 songs on a 700 MB disk, depending on MP3 lenth/quality, so with your 7000 songs archive it would take quite a bit of cd's. Buying a dvd burner and use 3.8 GB cd-r's should do 1000~1500 MP3s each, I guess that would make more sense in a collection your size. Also a second harddisk would be very easy.


the_angry_: RAID1 is not a backup, it only saves you for harddisk crashes. In case your software or you yourself make a mistake, your data would be evenly wiped out on both disks.
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Read my last post again, using "Store" as compression method doesn't compress at all, it just stores the files into the RAR archive. This is the neatest way to back up a large amount files.
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I really don't see the use. If you burn your MP3s directly to CD you have them instantly accessable as soon as you pop in the CD, and using winrar archives would only save like 5 MB at most per disk since we're talking about small files.
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emm.. MAY BE SO!
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OK, thanks for the suggestions .


I'll need at least 30 700-MBs CDs for that....
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OK, thanks for the suggestions .


I'll need at least 30 700-MBs CDs for that....
Not to mention patience and time burning them... to get make sure you dont lose quality, you want to burn at no more than 16x... not fun. Just get another hard drive (20GB, they're very cheap.) and shove it on there.
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the_angry_: RAID1 is not a backup, it only saves you for harddisk crashes. In case your software or you yourself make a mistake, your data would be evenly wiped out on both disks.
Hmmm that is true. I was assuming that the backup was in case the HDD crashed. ALthough a user mistake of deleting 7000 files must be quite an achievement. I suppose if you dont want the files on your HDD it does pose a bit of a problem. However, for the less than half the price of a DVD burner you could buy a decent 60GB HDD and just back up to that then you'd have immediate access, easy incremental backup facilities, and possiblilities for future expansion.
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