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That said, if we assume that those actions are allowed, I would say that the time the person jumping in the air before they land on the seesaw again is too quick for the seesaw to move sufficiently up or down to extract useful data from it. If we say that the seesaw moves instantaneously when a person jumps on it, wouldn't it be quicker then to make it 6 vs 6, and ask two people on either side to jump up at the same time? You'll be able to narrow it down to 2 potential people to be deviants, and then make them individually jump at the same time as one of the other people who we already know have the regular weight who are on their opposite side. When the seesaw balances when one of those two people jump you'll have the solution. So using your method, and allowing for a few things that I think are against the rules, you could solve the problem in 1 "weighing."
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Do you happen to have a solution for 6 with 2 ? Or 3 with 1 ?
So frustrating, I have a solution for 11 person in 3 use x)
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That's why I suggested the jump solution, it would solve all of the issues while not exactly going against any rules. 
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Been thinking about this. I'm not 100% there, but here's my working.
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We must be missing something...
(just ideas, [spoiler] for hardcore solvers ) Spoiler:
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Another hint:
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I gave up and read both of your hints, the first one didn't teach me much, only that Spoiler:
And I didn't get the second one... Do I need to go to that website he advertises/find out how that magic trick worked ?
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Here's one that came up in the news here yesterday, as an exam question in Singapore:
Albert and Bernard want to know when Cheryl's Birthday is. She gives them 10 possible dates: May 15, May 16, May 19 June 17, June 18 July 14, July 16 August 14, August 15, August 17. Cheryl tells Albert the month of her birthday and Bernard the day. Albert says "I do not know when Cheryl's birthday is, but I also know that Bernard does not know." Bernard says "I didn't know Cheryl's birthday before, but I do now. Albert says "Then I now know when Cheryl's birthday is." So when is Cheryl's birthday?
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Whoops, that should be August 17 not August 16. Edited. Sorry!
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Not bad but quite easy for me. I guess it just suits the way I think. P.S. : Still thinking about the deviant one
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Still thinking, I have come up with a solution, but I'm missing two nondeviant individual to carry it out
(And I haven't looked at the second hint yet.) Spoiler:
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I HAS IT !!! (I think)
Spoiler: DONE ! The first hint certainly helped in that I took the first step for granted, but I think I would've found out nonetheless (with more time of course). Haven't looked at the second hint though Are you still around DinoFly ? I'd like to know if I got it right (The process is much more complicated than I expected, everyone feel free to ask questions if I wasn't clear/made a mistake somewhere/etc...)
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You're lucky I popped in for a change!
Anyway, I didn't completely follow what you wrote, but it looks fundamentally correct. So yup, I think you got it right! As for a brief treatise on my solution(Polaris, only if you're completely certain of your solution take a look at the spoiler, I don't want you being angry with me for giving you a solution without you solving it yourself correctly. ): Spoiler:
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Question,
Spoiler: Very nice puzzle by the way, do you have any other ones ? Else I won't have anything to think about before I fall asleep now
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Sadly no, don't know any other puzzles! Personally I find doing probability calculations an effective method to fall asleep, though. Eg. in billiards you have 16 numbered balls. How many possible combinations can the first three balls go into the holes, but the order doesn't matter. So, [7, 13, 1] is the same as [1, 7, 13] and [13, 1, 17] etc. Obviously if you had lessons in probability in school this is relatively easy to calculate, but usually you fall asleep halfway through doing the mental calculations!
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Never thought of actually calculating, I myself usually prefer to think or reflect
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