Languages! (offtopic from the Little Bit Thread)

[HomerSimpson]

Dutch sucks for translating, we just don't have a cool language.

[morshem]

Define "cool language".

[HomerSimpson]

A language which is cool
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English words translated to Dutch don't have that cool vibe anymore, which English tends to have.

[morshem]

English isn't that cool, actually.

[HomerSimpson]

It sounds cool, though.

[ChaosFish]

American English is cool.

[citadelle]

Originally posted by ChaosFish
American English is cool.

lol, i hate my yankee accent

[Kieron]

Originally posted by morshem
Define "cool language".

• looks and sounds flowing and pleasing (cf. italian and many other languages - NOT english, german, dutch, or anything germanic or nordic)
• has interesting and definitive quirks (cf. welsh)
• has an interesting and complicated history and development (cf. english)
• works well in poetry and song (cf. spanish)
• is spoken in interesting situations (cf. catalan)
• has many different diverse varieties in different situations and regions (cf. japanese)

and the list goes on...



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you should see the things they've translated google into. you could do an lba one of these, or these, or these!

and still they won't let anyone do a sindarin or quenya translation

-> http://www.google.co.uk/language_tools

[Kieron]

Originally posted by ChaosFish
American English is cool.

???!!!

[morshem]

Thanks Kieron!

Well, Hebrew isn't such a cool language then, I guess.

[Kieron]

why? i don't know much about hebrew.

[Atresica]

American English cool? o_O
(I hate the "èèèèè" sounding a's )

As for hebrew, I like the G's for some reason

My cool language would probably be....
I'd say at least with the Spanish R
I quite like the Q
The latin U
words sounding like they have an H at the end (soft H)
I don't like L's, at least not in front of a word
Th, and Ts do sound good, as long they're not too hard.
It must sound a bit heavy, perhaps a touch of german (though not the accent -_-)

I don't think many people would find it pretty, but I think it would sound cool
Scruw pretty languages

But I really need to take a closer look into languages (though I can already tell I don't like quite like Mandarin, and italien for some reason can't interest me that much either.)

The reason why a dutch translation wouldn't do well is because dutch is a very formal language, it's too dry for a movie or what's so ever.

[Kieron]

no /l/?
/h/ at the end of a word?
heavy like german?

sounds nasty to me

i like the sounds of the celtic languages - lots of fricatives, and clear vowels. and of course i love spanish and italian (i love italian cos it's so bouncy ).

[Atresica]

No, I said not too heavy, with perhaps a touch of german... ever listened to Rammstein? Personally I think I never heard german being used in a better way then the singer does (whether that's the singer or the language, I don't know )

I don't mind L's, as long they're not the first letter of a word

And I don't mean H like hard, I more mean if you would have a word like "Heske", it would be pronounced like Hhèskhéh, as if the heh is like a breath.

[Zink]

Originally posted by ChaosFish
As I have noted in the guide- it's better to use the font viewer included with LBADeCOMP. (and not the font editor)

Hmmm. You probably mean "Text viewer/editor" not "Font".
And Morshem, if you experience problems with my programmes, you should report it to me as I wrote them and maybe I can help.

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What will you say about *that* language? (I found it somewhere):

The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty’s Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
In the first year, „s” will be used instead of soft „c”. Sertainly, sivil servants will reseive this news with joy. Also the hard „c” will be replased with „k”. Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome „ph” will be replased by „f”. This will make words like „fotograf” – 20 persent shorter.
In the third year, publik akceptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.
Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate spelling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent „e” in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.
By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing „th” by „z” and „w” by „v”.
During ze fifz year, ze unesesary „o” kan be dropd from vords kontaining „ou”, and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of letters.
After zis fifz year, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer.
Ze drem vil finali kum tru!

[HomerSimpson]

Bwuhahaha, funny kakadu

[Kieron]

kakadudu: lol i read that in my piano teacher's waiting room years ago. very funny

atresica: i know what you meant about /h/ at the end of words - aspirations - but i think aspiration is the ugliest thing about the english language! all the languages i love have no aspiration (except spanish sometimes, but only in certain dialects).

i think rammstein sound excellent because they are trying to sound harsh, and german is a very harsh language. but in everyday speech i hate it

[ChaosFish]

Ahem.. Atresica- can you split this thread?
It's about Little Bit Adventure! My preccccccccious...

[Atresica]

Originally posted by Kieron
i think rammstein sound excellent because they are trying to sound harsh, and german is a very harsh language. but in everyday speech i hate it

me too, German should be prohibited to be used except in that form

Kakaduku, great

Say, anyone interested in Newspeak?


okay ---> split

I think aspirations can sound very good actually. But then again, I seem to have a totaly different view of a "good sounding" language and ones that would be "ugly"

(I have to admit I don't understand what's the fuss is with Quenya, I can't say it's the most beautiful thing I heard. Either that or I need to kick some actor's arses)

What I do find important in a way is a kind of regularity in spelling. It doesn't look more 'beautiful' but without, it's quite difficult to make a good poem

[Panda]

Originally posted by citadelle
lol, i hate my yankee accent

If its anything like GWB I pity you

New York isnt that bad is it? Its closer to the UK than LA

One person with an american accent is AXX!!


German is the worst language, i hate it :/ Its just not a pleasant language. Sounds ugly imo.

French is nice, although I speak a few...... known phrases (Citadelle, Vultures )

[ellimac]

I think french is not so good although it's my own language.
I Do prefer english that's sounds very mucical. (try to translate english musics into french... awful)(that's why most of the songs have got english lyrics)
AND I hate spannish.

[Medur]

I totally agree with Kieron's deffinition of what a cool language is. Weird to see that coming from a british, in fact. :P
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Atresica: The fuss with quenya is that it was very well thought and articulated by Tolkien, was very creative and resulted in a pretty language, with elements from some of the prettiest languages that exist (spanish, finnish, etc). Don't trust the movies' dialogs, not even the names are correctly pronounciated sometimes... You should download that file where Tolkien reads the famous Elbereth Gilthoniel, there you can see a close feeling with quenya (but actually, not even Tolkien pronunciated it in the way he was supposed to. :P). I actually prefer sindarin than quenya, in anyway. If you are interested in quenya take a look at the Ardalambion website, it will solve your doubts. BTW, by "spanish r" do you mean the vibrated r?

[morshem]

--> Off-topic?

[LukeNoNumbers]

English is an odd language. My friend and I kept arguing about the pronunciation of 'wrath' (I thought it was pronounced 'wroth', and he just said it as it was spelt), until one of the teachers at school settlet the argument (I was right!).
I can never seem to say anything on these forums without seeming a complete and utter .

[morshem]

English sux! It's very difficult to learn.