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The Relentless Movie project The general for of The Relentless Movie Project. The goal of this project is to make a CG movie of Relentless.

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Old 2002-02-23, 20:17
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humm there is also humour... I have never seen animals communicating together, and then suddenly laughing as mads.... whereas it's what happens when humans hear Elie Semoun or Jean Marie Bigard..... Some monkeys and animals seem to laugh sometimes maybe, but for physical actions...
Just a fact.....nothing more....
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No, its an opioun.
How do you diffine laughter?
If its the physical action, then most species arn't capable of it.
If a species has humour, then it is highly unlikely they would have the same physical reaction.
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And as for saying monkeys laugh for physical reasons, how do you know?
Human humour varys enough between people and culture, it is silly to speculate on what cause's animals to "laugh".
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Thirdly, even if they didn't have humour, that doesn't make them less sentient then us.
They might have physical reactions that we don'thave, emotions we can't have. Different brains, can lead to the possiblity of anything.
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In fact, I dont know if monkeys are able to laugh as we see in comics, when they throw things on men that go under them, but it was in case...

human humour has about the same causes in all civilizations : spiritual humour or physical comic actions.
It over all depends of the imagination of men.
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I'm reading now very interessant scientific articles, that speak of common points between human brains and processors.
They say both use the same basic language, the lambda-calcul... that maths theorems are alredy written in our memories, that we just re-discover them... really interessant, we should have new elements soon...
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Old 2002-03-01, 22:43
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human humour has about the same causes in all civilizations : spiritual humour or physical comic actions.
You mean its either caused by something mental or something physical?
Well...duh.
Everything we do is either caused by something mental or something physical.
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Maths is'nt pre-written, its a bit deeper then that.
Our brain has the pre-written ability to do maths.
Which actualy is far more sophistcate and important then the maths itself.
This abbility mainly comes from "Abstractions" that the brain can make. We can represent symbals for meanings, then represent different symbals for those, and then look for paturns in them.
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We look at a triangle.
Due to the nature of the universe and reality, we reconsise and represent the difference between too pure demensions as being 90 degress.
Now, we then messure the size, we assign numbers to the size.
3,4,5
We look at more sizes or right angles tri-angle's.
6,8,10
24,7,25
We assign letters to the numbers.
A and B for the short "pure" sides, and C for the diagonal.
We notice A²+B²=C² (using ² to represent the multiplication of a number by itself).
The amount of abstract process's involved here are tremendous, and yet that is one of the simpliest mathmatical formulars.
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Our mind isn't "pre-set" with this this thoerm, but it is preset with the ablity to understand it.
The ability to comprehend the Abstract is very important.
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Old 2002-03-02, 12:07
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I just said what I had read in this high science article. Important scientifics thought our brain already used maths theorems and other things to work, to make calculs...

I know how the abstraction capacity is fabulous. For me the simple fact to be able to represent ourselves a physical object, a face, a triangle in our brain is more than fabulous.
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