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LBA1 3D models specification
Here is the first revision of the LBA1 3D models specification. Still have lots of unknown things but I hope to improve it in time.
I'm planning to do a converter tool to a common 3D format used for all current 3D applications the way people could model in this applications and then convert it back to LBA, but I need help. The format I was thinking is DXF format, that is ASCII 3D file (that I have his specification here) and seans not so complex like all other formats. Anyway, I'm releasing this before doing something real (also planing rewritting my LBA 3D Object Viewer) because you may need it to make your self a tool or a converter. Hope this could be useful and also hope to receive some feesback and suggestions about the convertion tool. Note: If you know something the specification doesn't tell or have a mistake, please tell me the way I could improve this specification.
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well , alexfont , u know i'll try convincing that guy into making a tool anyway , after what you have suggested to me in the PM , I managed to extract the LBA1 Twinsen and convert him to .x , so I've put it in my game ( Link's LBA 1.5 ) and will now have all the LBA characters YOU ARE GREAT !!! THANKS A BUNCH !!!
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When I've got this right you can now export them? 
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well , I intended not to use it just for testing purposes , but I guess that's just the kind of thing , the rest of y'all will decide and yes , I can export them BUT shaded things like the hands , hair , ears ( rabbibunnys ) will have to be recreated as they are not exported ... anyway , here's some eyecandy with my reskinned LBa1 twinsen
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Quote:
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I was just confused as with any of Quetch's posts.

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I can export them manually , not through a converter , but I am struggling to convince a friend of mine to make one
BTW : alexfont , u like the Twinsen ? cause I am planning to put it in the game
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Offtopic: The hands are too big, the rest is good.
Ok, lets stay ontopic. Already start doing the structures to save the body content. Maybe today or tomorrow will do some procedures to read it. For now, are only tests.
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Ok guys, I was making some code to load the LBA1 models and I saw I made a mistake in the document. There is no Dummy (2 bytes) between each part of the file. As soon as I recheck all, I'll upload the 2nd revision.
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oky , be sure to give me the right one before I pass it on to my friend
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No problem than, I already fix the document. I manage to read it easly yesterday and will post the 2nd revision as soon as possible.
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oky doky then
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I need help from all 3D modellers
I want some advices about what could be the better and easy file to convert the LBA1 models. Someone have a clue? Note I need a simple 3D file format for a easier convert construction.
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so are u asking what format should we use for the exporter once we'll be able to export them ??? if so , .X would be ok , or .3ds
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Did you know this formats inside?
I need a simple one to build, and 3ds is not one of them.
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He just chose them because that are the formats he can use in his project.

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But I need a format to use in 3D applications the way we can make new models, not exactly to use it.
It isn't legal to rip files and use it in other proposes
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well I can use them already in my project anyway , I think that .x is the simplest one cause it uses DirectX functions directly
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The problem is that I need a simple file format that can be handle in the most common 3D apps and X isn't on of them, but anyway I'll check its specifications.
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well these are the most common ones ( in order ) : 3ds , x , obj , md2 , mdl , ascii , and then the others
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The easiest and best solution is to use the ASCII format. Almost every 3D modelling program is working with it. It`s very simple and intuitive.

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hmm yep
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Here's the 2nd revision of the LBA1 3D model files.
Btw, I can't find any reference about this ASCII format, do you guys have something for that?
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hey I'll see what I can get from my friend with your specifications In the mean time , check out the LBA1 Twinsen in ASCII format :
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There seems to be a password to unzip it.

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