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Old 2022-09-19, 12:33
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is twinsen the bad guy?

instead of funfrock?

like, do we have any evidence of funfrock doing bad shit towards other people?

for instance:

1. there's police patroling the streets, but they only shoot the runaway prisoner who is verifyably dangerous (see later). They never brutalize citizens? or do they? I vagely remember a grobo for being in prison for sneezing, or is my memory that hazy? So as a resident of the islands, safety is pretty much guaranteed.

2. he doesn't give prisoners a death sentence, even when they are psychotic killers like twinsen. he only slaps them once or twice.

3. you can have a reasonably good life on the northern hemisphere, even become a pharmacist. meaning health is very important on twinsun.

4. there are nurses in the mental hospitals...for the mental health.

5. there used to be dangerous flying dinosaurs on some ancient island, but thankfully he wiped them all out. Safety first!

6. he's a master scientists, even invented cloning and teleportation. he could advance the society so much. lost a limb? he could clone a new arm for you. Lost a family member? boom! new clone version.

7. it's really hot in the southern hemisphere, and there are dangerous animals. he moved the whole population away from there, talk about leadership to pull that off.

Twinsen on the other hand:

1. has psychotic dreams, sees animals as people.
2. kills innocent people like the rabbibunny girl in citadel island, and throws people in the water
3. steals from cash registers
4. kills a lot of nurses in the asylum.
5. wrecks important infrastructure, and paintings of walls.
6. wrecks a lot of ancient walls and art!
7. slaps zoe
8. runs around with a sword, making backflips and shit.
9. stamps on flowers.
10. rosa the cow....need i say more?
11. slaps kids in the kindergarten.

if you doubt number 1...have you ever had a flower play a musical note if you step on it?
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Old 2022-09-19, 15:07
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I hate everything written in this thread. It is SO wrong. It brings so much hate, I can't even...



PS: an "answer" to your suppositions can be found in my sig, which is a quote of the very intro text of the games...
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Old 2022-09-19, 15:29
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I hate everything written in this thread. It is SO wrong. It brings so much hate, I can't even...



PS: an "answer" to your suppositions can be found in my sig, which is a quote of the very intro text of the games...
tell me you weren't amused as well?
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Old 2022-09-19, 15:30
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I forgot drunk walking in public

and

harassing naked women in the sauna.


seriously...how can we not see this
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Old 2022-09-19, 15:34
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Haha, that's very well researched. He wasn't exactly nice to Zoe though either, and how did poor Zoe deserve all this? Your theory that it's possible to have a benevolent police state also seems... doubtful, given what history taught us about what happens when you give one group lots of power over another group
Would actually be interesting for an LBA3 to also show some of FunFrock's human sides, given that most players would be adults who'd probably prefer things not to be too black and white.
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Old 2022-09-19, 16:23
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Haha, that's very well researched. He wasn't exactly nice to Zoe though either, and how did poor Zoe deserve all this? Your theory that it's possible to have a benevolent police state also seems... doubtful, given what history taught us about what happens when you give one group lots of power over another group
Would actually be interesting for an LBA3 to also show some of FunFrock's human sides, given that most players would be adults who'd probably prefer things not to be too black and white.
yeah, like he just wants to impress zoe, digging up the whole earth just to win her heart.

also makes sense why he's cloning her, plan b
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Old 2022-09-19, 18:58
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tell me you weren't amused as well?



OK

HERE'S A CHALLENGE FOR YOU, MR!

Everytime you, or you and your family, are walking in the city and you see a police car - YOU MUST IMMEDIATELY STOP AND ALL MUST REMAIN MOTIONLESS UNTIL IT GOES AWAY.

If you do not do this in real life and do not comply to this challenge, then, you are hypocritical in stating that FunFrock was actually the nice guy.

Let's see how amused you will feel.
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Old 2022-09-19, 19:23
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OK

HERE'S A CHALLENGE FOR YOU, MR!

Everytime you, or you and your family, are walking in the city and you see a police car - YOU MUST IMMEDIATELY STOP AND ALL MUST REMAIN MOTIONLESS UNTIL IT GOES AWAY.

If you do not do this in real life and do not comply to this challenge, then, you are hypocritical in stating that FunFrock was actually the nice guy.

Let's see how amused you will feel.
Oh yeah there's that

Wait that actually applied to npcs as well right?
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Old 2022-09-19, 20:05
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Oh yeah there's that

Wait that actually applied to npcs as well right?
yep. everyone. every single citizen.


oh and how about having your wife taken from you away forever to God-knows-where without any trial, justice, lawyer or mandate, etc., just because you're guilty of dreaming???


list goes on..
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Old 2022-09-19, 20:07
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instead of funfrock?

like, do we have any evidence of funfrock doing bad shit towards other people?

for instance:

1. there's police patroling the streets, but they only shoot the runaway prisoner who is verifyably dangerous (see later). They never brutalize citizens? or do they? I vagely remember a grobo for being in prison for sneezing, or is my memory that hazy? So as a resident of the islands, safety is pretty much guaranteed.

2. he doesn't give prisoners a death sentence, even when they are psychotic killers like twinsen. he only slaps them once or twice.

3. you can have a reasonably good life on the northern hemisphere, even become a pharmacist. meaning health is very important on twinsun.

4. there are nurses in the mental hospitals...for the mental health.

5. there used to be dangerous flying dinosaurs on some ancient island, but thankfully he wiped them all out. Safety first!

6. he's a master scientists, even invented cloning and teleportation. he could advance the society so much. lost a limb? he could clone a new arm for you. Lost a family member? boom! new clone version.

7. it's really hot in the southern hemisphere, and there are dangerous animals. he moved the whole population away from there, talk about leadership to pull that off.

Twinsen on the other hand:

1. has psychotic dreams, sees animals as people.
2. kills innocent people like the rabbibunny girl in citadel island, and throws people in the water
3. steals from cash registers
4. kills a lot of nurses in the asylum.
5. wrecks important infrastructure, and paintings of walls.
6. wrecks a lot of ancient walls and art!
7. slaps zoe
8. runs around with a sword, making backflips and shit.
9. stamps on flowers.
10. rosa the cow....need i say more?
11. slaps kids in the kindergarten.

if you doubt number 1...have you ever had a flower play a musical note if you step on it?

there's still time to delete this heretic thread and save the embarassment this is to the community.
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Old 2022-09-19, 20:09
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2. kills innocent people like the rabbibunny girl in citadel island, and throws people in the water
3. steals from cash registers
7. slaps zoe
11. slaps kids in the kindergarten.
I've never done these things you have listed o.O

In other words, Twinsen is neutral, it is YOU who is bad. Plot twist eh?
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Old 2022-09-19, 21:08
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there's still time to delete this heretic thread and save the embarassment this is to the community.
are you kidding this is the best thread, shaking things up

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Old 2022-09-19, 21:09
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I've never done these things you have listed o.O

In other words, Twinsen is neutral, it is YOU who is bad. Plot twist eh?
ahaha, it is always the steering agent.

having said that, you never done any of those things in the game?
now...seriously, did you even play the game
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Old 2022-09-19, 21:30
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are you kidding this is the best thread, shaking things up

As long as you don't become a troll...
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Old 2022-09-19, 21:56
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I've never done these things you have listed o.O

In other words, Twinsen is neutral, it is YOU who is bad. Plot twist eh?
But Rosa the Cow?
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As long as you don't become a troll...
We had discussions like this all the time in the beginning
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@SpaceGuitarist: Not sure if you didn't get that it's a harmless joke or if I didn't get that you're joking as well
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@SpaceGuitarist: Not sure if you didn't get that it's a harmless joke or if I didn't get that you're joking as well
i think he's playing the role of the shocked innocent mbn guy
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The first nurse you can speak to in LBA1 (who is also the first NPC you can speak to IIRC) explains why Twinsen is there in quote 269. But the most important part of that quote is:

"Calm down, we're going to dissect... uh, I mean take care of you!"

So, they do plan to cut up Twinsen in order to understand why he's having these dreams. Based on where dreaming happens we can assume from this that the Citadel nurses are planning to cut up Twinsens brain and study it in detail (after all, "dissect" isn't just cutting something up).

It is unlikely that Twinsen would survive this process, meaning they are planning to kill him. So, I disagree with at least your second point in favour of Funfrock.
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The first nurse you can speak to in LBA1 (who is also the first NPC you can speak to IIRC) explains why Twinsen is there in quote 269. But the most important part of that quote is:

"Calm down, we're going to dissect... uh, I mean take care of you!"

So, they do plan to cut up Twinsen in order to understand why he's having these dreams. Based on where dreaming happens we can assume from this that the Citadel nurses are planning to cut up Twinsens brain and study it in detail (after all, "dissect" isn't just cutting something up).

It is unlikely that Twinsen would survive this process, meaning they are planning to kill him. So, I disagree with at least your second point in favour of Funfrock.
Good point!

So you can also say that him escaping is saving his life, and all the kills there are needed in order to prevent being dissected. Meaning, all those kills are accounted for.

Still depending on your behaviour, you can actually walk the streets drunk and punch and kill innocent people. So Twinsen is like an actual human being, not the ideal hero. This is very cool of the game.

if I play the game, Twinsen is just as bad as Funfrock, which often is the case in real life hero's and badguys, just depending on the narrative. If Roy plays the game, he's only a bit naughty with cows, but other than that, he's a nice guy.

Funny thing, whatever you do, Twinsen is the hero, the chosen one.
Maybe in lba3 we can have sendell come down and change the outcome if Twinsen doesn't behave.
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If Roy plays the game, he's only a bit dirty with cows, but other than that, he's a nice guy.


Nicely put!
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Nicely put!
aw men! I just changed it to naughty, which makes it more playful stab.
Synchronicity at it again
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aw men! I just changed it to naughty, which makes it more playful stab.
Synchronicity at it again
Haha, I got the meaning just the same. Yeah, I confess, the Rosa thing was a great addition, probably one of the greatest Easter Eggs in all gaming history... I don't regret it at all! <3 Rosa

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Oh, so Dr. FunFrock is taking care of us now. Funny, I find it hard to believe that it was him.
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who said that?
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