Go Back   the Magicball Network > Forums > MBN Main Forums > General

Welcome to the Magicball Network.

You are currently viewing our site as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

General The general chatting goes on in here. That means talk about the LBA games and its world.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #26  
Old 2022-09-30, 21:39
Polaris's Avatar
Polaris Polaris is offline
Magic Level: Water Ball
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tippett Island
Posts: 7,032
What's a girl-next-door ?
__________________
<((((((((((((([[[========================]]])))))))))))))>
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 2022-11-09, 23:49
Hin Hin is offline
Magic Level: Red Ball
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 206
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
What's a girl-next-door ?
Ah, such an innocent soul

I thought there had been a reply to this actually, did someone delete a post?

Well if you're curious and you're not afraid of teenage humor, there IS a movie called "The girl next door"!
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 2022-11-10, 01:15
CS2x's Avatar
CS2x CS2x is offline
inharmonic explorer
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: London
Posts: 2,415
I think this is an interesting thread. Agree with everyone's points! Even as a nine year old I was relieved to find a main hero who didn't just have big muscles and a machine gun, a normal working marriage and pregnancy (imagine that!), and a woman who could fix a car. In my marriage today too, I can't seem to do anything practical no matter how I try, but my wife can fix mechanical puzzles and then some.

It's worth noting a key original creator of the first Tomb Raider, Toby Gard, left the franchise after the first game (and sacrificed a lot of money in doing so) because of how he saw Laura getting sexualised in the sequels. He went on to make that game Galleon.

Also, Benoît Limare has said on Facebook that that new LBA concept art everyone is upset about won't be used, so nobody needs to worry about that. The newer image represents where they're at.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 2022-11-10, 01:52
Hin Hin is offline
Magic Level: Red Ball
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 206
Quote:
Originally Posted by CS2x View Post
Toby Gard, left the franchise after the first game (and sacrificed a lot of money in doing so) because of how he saw Laura getting sexualised in the sequels. He went on to make that game Galleon.

Also, Benoît Limare has said on Facebook that that new LBA concept art everyone is upset about won't be used, so nobody needs to worry about that. The newer image represents where they're at.
Shame about Toby Gard, Galleon doesn't seem to have hit that well (of course it's difficult to compare to a legend such as tomb raider)

About the artwork yes I feel like we need to wait for them to actually produce something. I think this artwork was just to show there are new things happening, it was not an advanced sketch of how things will look like
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 2022-11-10, 07:49
Polaris's Avatar
Polaris Polaris is offline
Magic Level: Water Ball
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tippett Island
Posts: 7,032
I may go to BDSM parties, but I still do not know exactly what a girl-next-door is...
__________________
<((((((((((((([[[========================]]])))))))))))))>
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 2022-11-10, 09:56
Hin Hin is offline
Magic Level: Red Ball
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 206
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
I may go to BDSM parties, but I still do not know exactly what a girl-next-door is...
Haha then not so innocent I see

I would say the girl next door is a sexual fantasy/stereotype of your average girl neighbor
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 2022-11-10, 15:01
Neko's Avatar
Neko Neko is offline
Neko
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 9,328
it is a stereotype ofcourse, but you otherwise have to talk about individual people.

it's hard to define really, because i never met a girl and thought 'oh she's type girl next door'. But Tomb Raider presents basically how super models looked like in the 90's, and I often didn't find them interesting, and rather prefered the girls in my class :P
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 2022-11-10, 19:25
bloodhound bloodhound is offline
mostly celibate woke man
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Germany/Schleswig-Holstein
Posts: 1,057
Translation: He's into amateur porn
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 2022-11-10, 19:36
Neko's Avatar
Neko Neko is offline
Neko
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 9,328


Thats not what I had in mind with "girl next door"
__________________

Last edited by Neko; 2022-11-10 at 20:33.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 2022-11-10, 20:10
Hin Hin is offline
Magic Level: Red Ball
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 206
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neko View Post


Thats not what I had in mind with girl next door
Don't worry, everything in MBN stays in MBN. Right?
...
...
right?
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 2022-11-10, 21:05
Polaris's Avatar
Polaris Polaris is offline
Magic Level: Water Ball
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tippett Island
Posts: 7,032
Ah, so a porn jargon to describe an average girl that could be anyone's neighbour ?
__________________
<((((((((((((([[[========================]]])))))))))))))>
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 2022-11-10, 23:12
Polaris's Avatar
Polaris Polaris is offline
Magic Level: Water Ball
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tippett Island
Posts: 7,032
Whoaa, you sure are knowledgeable, thanks !
__________________
<((((((((((((([[[========================]]])))))))))))))>
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 2022-11-11, 00:59
Reek's Avatar
Reek Reek is offline
Party animal
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: israel
Posts: 9,240
Send a message via ICQ to Reek Send a message via MSN to Reek
Regarding the construction workers on polar island, they were clearly LGBT



think of 'the village people' for example
__________________
https://i.imgur.com/dbRSJvg.png
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 2022-11-11, 09:11
Hin Hin is offline
Magic Level: Red Ball
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 206
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reek View Post
Regarding the construction workers on polar island, they were clearly LGBT

think of 'the village people' for example
OMG you're right!!
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 2023-03-20, 02:14
SpaceGuitarist's Avatar
SpaceGuitarist SpaceGuitarist is offline
CHORUS* (w/ overdrive)
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Brazil
Posts: 8,794
So now they have changed Twinsen's skin colour:





__________________
Quote:
" If you have no success with one type of behaviour, try another. " - LBA 2 Manual
The Single Most Important Post In The Magicball Network's History
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 2023-03-20, 08:53
Polaris's Avatar
Polaris Polaris is offline
Magic Level: Water Ball
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tippett Island
Posts: 7,032
He's always had a weird colour on the boat
__________________
<((((((((((((([[[========================]]])))))))))))))>
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 2023-03-20, 09:32
bloodhound bloodhound is offline
mostly celibate woke man
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Germany/Schleswig-Holstein
Posts: 1,057
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpaceGuitarist View Post
So now they have changed Twinsen's skin colour
How likely do you think it is that my fan fic about a TLBA2 Progressive Edition will become reality? They already made one edition with technical changes (like free camera), now they'll make one edition with art changes, then why not also one edition with political correctness changes?
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 2023-03-20, 10:13
Battler's Avatar
Battler Battler is offline
Welcome to Zirla!
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Koper, Slovenia
Posts: 5,937
Send a message via ICQ to Battler Send a message via AIM to Battler Send a message via MSN to Battler Send a message via Yahoo to Battler
What the heck, why did they do that to Twinsen? It's sad to see that unfortunately, my prediction of them pushing progressive politics has been proven correct.
__________________
Join me on the 86Box or LBA Discord servers!
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 2023-03-20, 11:08
Polaris's Avatar
Polaris Polaris is offline
Magic Level: Water Ball
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tippett Island
Posts: 7,032
He's standing next to an orange rabbit, and you're pissed off because his skin tone is somewhat darker than in the original game, while having no other attributes that would lead to a precise cultural identity ?

Come on guys, you're better than this.
__________________
<((((((((((((([[[========================]]])))))))))))))>
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 2023-03-20, 13:01
bloodhound bloodhound is offline
mostly celibate woke man
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Germany/Schleswig-Holstein
Posts: 1,057
It's very common nowadays to see woke agendas where there aren't any (and also on the other side of the political spectrum, to see racist agendas where there aren't any). Same happened when a Victor Hugo statue got refurbished with a skin color that came out a bit dark. Or when the concept art with the scared-looking Twinsen and the tough Zoe came out and some people thought now the reboot will have a radical feminist agenda.

Funny thing is also that with the brown skin and black hair, he looks like Ronaldinho, and yet the two Brazilians complain

Last edited by bloodhound; 2023-03-20 at 13:42.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 2023-03-20, 14:11
Polaris's Avatar
Polaris Polaris is offline
Magic Level: Water Ball
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tippett Island
Posts: 7,032
Battler is Russo-Slovenian, even though he was called OBrasilo at some point
__________________
<((((((((((((([[[========================]]])))))))))))))>

Last edited by Polaris; 2023-03-20 at 19:00.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 2023-03-20, 14:40
bloodhound bloodhound is offline
mostly celibate woke man
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Germany/Schleswig-Holstein
Posts: 1,057
Haha, oops!
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 2023-03-20, 16:50
SpaceGuitarist's Avatar
SpaceGuitarist SpaceGuitarist is offline
CHORUS* (w/ overdrive)
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Brazil
Posts: 8,794
Oh boy. Battler is right in what he said. But reading some replies here made me so angry.


First: Guys, Battler (former Obrasilo) was born in Brazil and therefore a brazilian, even though he went to Europe very early on and grew there. OK? But that does not matter. It doesn't matter where we're from. That's not the issue here.


I don't mind if they change one rabbibunny from orange to brown, or some whoever grobo from blue to gray.


But deliberately changing the skin colour of THE MAIN FUCKING CHARACTER OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE SERIES who happens to be a 'white hetero male' - the arch-enemy archetype of the progressive Left - is a shitty shady move, whatever reasons led them to that, and don't tell me this was a "mistake when picking the colour pallette" because it's clear nobody at 2.21 is colour blind.


As for cutscenes inconsistency blablabla: I've just watched ALL of them (they're on youtube, lookup) and it's OBVIOUS FOR ANYONE WITH A BRAIN WHO EVER SAW A 3D SOFTWARE IN USE that it has to do with the poor lighting/simulation of the 3D rendering at the time, the high contrast shades cast by the light vary A LOT, but the 3D model is just one, with a single clearly defined skin colour, and that is caucasian.

ANYONE can see that consistency in both games, during all gameplay, in every render made for advertising and magazines, etc. etc, etc, ETC., there's a gazillion references just look it up.

Saying that he was "a dark shade of brown just because he appeared so in one ferry scene" is ridiculous and you guys SUCK AT INVESTIGATING OR ANALYSING ANYTHING OBJECTIVELY.

BYE. I'm ANGRY.
__________________
Quote:
" If you have no success with one type of behaviour, try another. " - LBA 2 Manual
The Single Most Important Post In The Magicball Network's History
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 2023-03-20, 17:08
SpaceGuitarist's Avatar
SpaceGuitarist SpaceGuitarist is offline
CHORUS* (w/ overdrive)
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Brazil
Posts: 8,794
REFERENCES:










If your brain cannot DISTINGUISH different shades due to LOW LIGHT SITUATIONS and tell it's all one same consistent caucasian skin, then you're a lost cause!


Might as well marry Twinsen with another male quetch, why not??? because, y'know, he needs to represent the LGBTQ+ community too right? And they've adopted the baby!


Cuz, I mean, having a blonde white wife is too typical and white supremacist these days. GIVE ZOE AN AFRO HAIRDO!
__________________
Quote:
" If you have no success with one type of behaviour, try another. " - LBA 2 Manual
The Single Most Important Post In The Magicball Network's History

Last edited by SpaceGuitarist; 2023-03-20 at 17:15.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 2023-03-20, 17:09
SpaceGuitarist's Avatar
SpaceGuitarist SpaceGuitarist is offline
CHORUS* (w/ overdrive)
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Brazil
Posts: 8,794
Quote:
Originally Posted by CiB View Post
Well, there is a clear problem with the quality of either your eyes or your monitor. Either way, you are right that there is no point in discussing it further.
Wow, to make such a statement...
Wow, you suck at anything in life. I'm sorry for you.
__________________
Quote:
" If you have no success with one type of behaviour, try another. " - LBA 2 Manual
The Single Most Important Post In The Magicball Network's History
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wrestlefest 2K6 Tiebreaker: El "Shiva" Muerte v. Gustav "Vlad the Impaler" Sweden Double-J Off topic 43 2006-10-30 00:17
"Twinsen", "Twinsun", "LBA", etc. copyrights?? Exie General 24 2006-04-11 16:02
New LBA "Type" game, Project Revived, RPGMXP style Manic Fan Creations - General 22 2005-10-24 18:24
"SPOILERS!"Blizzard game endings "SPOILERS!" Cyberg-Ares Off topic 5 2003-08-17 13:06
I say "Trium Planeta", you say "Trinium Placenta", let's call the whole thing of Double-J General 17 2002-07-31 22:58


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 15:27.


News Feed
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, the Magicball Network