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Old 2009-06-06, 20:37
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Question Help!!!

Okay, I don't know what I've done wrong, if I have anyway...
I am on Vista, I don't know if this is a tech issue or I've missed something, anyway.
I'm at the bit under desert island, I've killed that guard, got the key, gone up the lift, across the electric floor and pressed the button. There is a guard with a RED helmet and gun, how do I kill him? I have watched CannibalK9's speedrun video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2accQ...eature=related
He just attacks him, I've tried that but it doesn't hurt him, it just makes him to the bounce back thing and makes that "doing" noise, no stars come off though, I've tried everything, even the lightning spell, but NOTHING hurts him. Do I need a special item or something? (Am I supposed to do that thing underground on Citadel island?)

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Old 2009-06-06, 23:49
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You need a red ball to kill red units. And that's how it works in all the LBA games.

I guess you want to figure out how to get the red ball on your own hand.
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Old 2009-06-07, 20:46
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That guy is there to ensure you don't leave Twinsun without getting the Red Ball. Ask in the School of Magic like ZoƩ told you to do.
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Old 2009-06-08, 07:31
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you know, it is actually possible to get past him without getting the red ball, although I'm not sure that would be wise, seeing aas you will struggle tremendously on Zeelich without the red ball, lol.

Unless of course I'm wrong and you need to get a key from him to get the itinery token, then my theory just flew out the window
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Old 2009-06-08, 16:07
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You need the key from him. I think it's possible to use the keys you collect earlier in the same room, then use the Jump-Save-Bug to get past the locked doors without using the keys for them, so that you would have one spare key to get the itinary token. I haven't tried this though.
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Old 2009-06-08, 19:32
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yup it works but it makes the game nearly impossible
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Old 2009-06-15, 10:58
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what do you mean by Jump-Save-Bug? - ? - saving the game with 2 keys on you, using one to get the itinerery token and the other to get to the spaceship even if neither are meant for the space ship?

regardless, to go back to zeelich with only the green ball and then try going from green to fireball? that would definitely be interesting! to complete the game without the redball would create another dimension of difficulty to it. i might try this.
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Old 2009-06-15, 14:46
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what do you mean by Jump-Save-Bug?
Jump Save Bug
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Old 2009-06-15, 18:03
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You must Jump, then Save some money and buy a Bug with it. Then, you won the game

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Old 2009-06-15, 21:54
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Lol im really gonna try this soon
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Old 2009-06-16, 18:51
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Ok guys, I promised to try this and here's the result.

At first you need some bad ass JSB skills like me
At some parts you need to JSB on feeling and you won't be able to see Twinsen. (Yes it's behind the door.)



JSB from the ground on the electric floor. (Somehow you don't get hit by the floor)



Then fall down on the pad that goes up.
JSB on your senses over the door. (5 saves will do the trick)



Here you see I've got the green ball on the UFO.
(Lol you can do this without going there but's it not fake )



Within 5 minutes I got stuck here. You need the key from the guard but you can't kill him with the green ball

Try to see.
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Old 2009-06-16, 21:26
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Twinsen's fiery silhouette is there because you edited the files, right?
I didn't get in what order you have to do what exactly.
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Old 2009-06-16, 22:30
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Yes I edited the files.

Ok, there's a metal path that leads to the left that goes up to the UFO.
Stand a few steps behind that path and face to the electric floor.
JSB all the way up, when you reach the top you will fall over an invisible wall that has the same height as the fence left and right next to the electric floor.
Avoid the red franco and get the token.
Deactivate the electricity and run straight untill you fall down in that hole.
Try to JSB over the metal door now.
Now you made it.
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Old 2009-06-16, 23:01
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We need more JSB videos I think. Anyway, when we did this before we got stuck on the moon but I managed to get the spacesuit inside the moonbase which I think is powerful enough to kill that guy. You just need to JSB over the airlock door rather than store your suit in the chamber.
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Old 2009-06-17, 17:53
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Sounds like fun, gonna try to jump over it and you'll hear from me.

EDIT: You're wrong Kitarii, I just realised I once told you guys with some pictures I got the laser-pistol on Twinsun with the wizard tunic bug

See this thread http://forum.magicball.net/showthrea...t=13556&page=2 #29 post.

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Old 2009-06-17, 18:58
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Oh okay, so you can take the laser gun to the moon?
But I don't get why you said I'm wrong, everything I said is still true.
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Old 2009-06-17, 19:02
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Well, i tried the spacesuit thingie and you definitely can't take it inside the building.
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Old 2009-06-17, 19:16
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100% you can.

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Old 2009-06-17, 19:37
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?????? I tried the wrong entrance I guess
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Old 2009-06-17, 20:34
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Use the JSB to get over the door in the airlock scene, it shouldn't matter which one...
I can't remember which one I used, I guess some of the entrances might be trickier to land.
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Old 2009-06-17, 21:20
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I wish I could use the space suit the whole game. It would fucking rock, that emerald moon section is way too short, imho.
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Old 2009-06-22, 11:33
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I think it's possible to fix that.
You can do all kinds of this with LBAPackageEditor
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