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Old 2007-07-08, 19:42
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Teh biggest rumour of teh all: A PS3 Price-Drop Imminent

The ads are already being printed (since most local shops print 2-3 weeks ahead of time). Can it be? Can Sony actually be doing something intelligent for the consumer? Has being thrashed by the cute little console called Wii caused them to see the light?

I don't know. I don't care. But I'll probably buy one soon, hopefully after they add rumble back to the controllers.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/plays...-15-275391.php

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Old 2007-07-08, 19:44
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Now for "only" $500. Er, yeah....
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Old 2007-07-08, 19:46
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Yeah, I agree, its still really expensive. I could care less about the Blu-Ray drive at this point, until some games use them, but putting it into perspective, it is a "cheap" Blu-Ray player.

But compared to my $250 Wii, it's like the elephant in the room.
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Old 2007-07-08, 20:17
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that would make it about $400 cheaper than the next cheapest BluRay player
and about $200 cheaper than a comparable XBox360 with HD-DVD player
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Old 2007-07-08, 20:26
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The question is... for what would I need to play either of BluRay or HD-DVD?
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Old 2007-07-08, 21:18
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for PS3 games you need BluRay
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Old 2007-07-08, 21:24
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I know. Is there any worth it?
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Old 2007-07-08, 21:56
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You could buy/rent HD-DVD and BluRay movies. It would have much better quality than DVD if you have an LCD/Plasma screen.
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Old 2007-07-08, 21:57
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My TV still works with picture tube.
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Old 2007-07-09, 00:18
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My TV still works with picture tube.
TUBE-TVs for the win!!
We don't have other TVs either but everyone of us has got an LCD for his/her Computer^^
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Old 2007-07-09, 01:30
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that would make it about $400 cheaper than the next cheapest BluRay player
Nah I'm pretty sure that's outdated by now, I think the first $300 priced Blu-Ray players were released in the USA a few months ago. Sony's own standalone player does around $499 now, so that at least equals the new PS3 price.
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Old 2007-07-09, 01:58
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Bluray and HDDVD are both too little too late.

HDDVD will drop in price quicker then BR, but with devices like AppleTV, and DIVXs rather more reasonably looking device (currently being beta tested by me), I think both physical Disc formats are going to die much quicker then these new formats are taking hold.

DVD will be the majority till Digital Distribution is standard.

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Yes, its what gives them their longer-the-dvd load times


BluRay is no excuse for the PS3's price.
As consumers, companys have to persuade us what makes their system good.
They cant merely say "well, we want this format to succeed, and its expensive to make....".


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Old 2007-07-09, 05:35
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The price drop was confirmed.
http://www.kotv.com/news/national/story/?id=131051

Also, the PStwo was updated, the console itself and the power brick are now lighter. Size is the same, no other significant changes.
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/802/802262p1.html




So.... yay. I guess.
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Old 2007-07-09, 06:09
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All the next-gen consoles are boring for me. Maybe Mario Galaxy will change that...
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Old 2007-07-09, 10:53
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Bluray and HDDVD are both too little too late.
how's that?
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give me $500 and I'd consider accepting a PS3 for free.

sony? fuck off.
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Old 2007-07-09, 16:18
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how's that?
Well, too little too early, might have been better

Basicaly, imo, its not a significant enough step up from DVD.

VHS >> DVD wasn't about quality improvement so much as convenience.
Consumers had a new, futuristic, shiny disc that didnt need rewinding, could have many more features, and could be used a lot more without degrading.
They also took up less space and were cheaper to manufacture. (hence the wonderfully huge selection of cheap old films on dvd...something that wouldnt have happened with vhs).

Now, DVD>>HDDVD/BluRay ?
Its purely space/resolution improvement.
Theres basically no other consumer advantage. Its not physcologicaly different enough to catch on fast.
And as far as DRM goes, the new formats are a significant disadvantage.


The formats also came too early technology wise.
The PS3's 2 speed bluray drive is so slow, for instance, that some company's are duplicating data over the disc to speed loading times up.


If there was one new format...a generic one...that could store, say, 200Gig...possibly holographicaly based, and with backwards and forwards compatible codec technology. (eg, one not limited by preset resolutions, but allows players to take data as needed based on the output device).
If this format could, potentially, store HDR data* as well as HighRes images.
Even 3D/Depth data.
Both in hardware wise, and in terms of software standards, HD discs are just a stop-gap compromise technology. A lot more interesting stuff is on the horizon.

Heck, a lot of the really early HD discs still used Mpeg2 :P
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Old 2007-07-09, 16:36
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ok, that makes more sense. Was thinking the same thing about BluRay/HDDVD.
No real gain over DVD for movies.

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It's about as fast as an 16 speed DVD player. And data duplication has always been done on slow media like optical disks, simply because it frigging slow.
However, the PS3 has a harddrive, a lot of games preload/offload commonly used data to the HD. This will greatly reduce the loading times. XBox360 doesn't always have an HD and MS certification requires games to run without HD usages.

Anyway, optical media will always be slow, specially in case of seek times.
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Old 2007-07-09, 19:08
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Now that the price drop is *official* I'm getting a PS3 tomorrow. I will give a full review later this week.

One of the local shops has it for $499 plus a free controller and 5 free blu-ray movies, so I'm jumping on that.
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Old 2007-07-09, 21:57
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No real gain over DVD for movies.
There is a real gain over DVD for movies, the quality is very noticeably better than DVD. Sort of like standard HDVD rip compared to HDTV rip in 1280x1024 resolution.
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Old 2007-07-09, 22:21
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That's quite a minor gain, specially considering most times you're not watching stills but actual moving images
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Old 2007-07-09, 23:29
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And still I'm sure that once you'd get used to HD you won't be able to easily go back to DVD.

One thing I noticed when watching the Lost pilot in very high resolution is that I actually saw all their makeup and stuff. I actually saw the blood wasn't real. And did so without pausing the video.
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Old 2007-07-09, 23:36
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I actually saw the blood wasn't real.
Whether that is good or not is questionable.
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Old 2007-07-09, 23:52
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Whether that is good or not is questionable.
That isn't good if in the making of the film they weren't prepared for it to be viewed in HD. (duh)

You know what I meant.
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Old 2007-07-10, 00:18
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Heh, I don't really think it's not a big gain, the DVD mpg format is a very old one, I personally like some xvid, divX releases, wich can be a lot better then most DVDs. And actually when I view HD trailers, and then I go an see a DVD movie, I'm kind if dissapointed by the quality.
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