How would you name all the remakes of LBA?

[bloodhound]

As we all know, great video games need lots of remakes, and this need will never stop. For example if the metaverse gets ready for prime time in 10 years, then we'll need an "LBA: Metaverse edition".

How would you name all these remakes? For LBA there already a few, and the names of them have caused controversy. The most boring way would be "LBA1: Classic", "LBA1: Remake 1", "LBA1: Remake 2", etc.

For comparison, according to Styx we have for LBA1:
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure Classic 1
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 1 Remastered
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure Reboot

And for Final Fantasy VII, there are:
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Final Fantasy VII Reunion

[Polaris]

The FFVII names don't make more sense to be frank, but I think the problem with LBA is that they used synonyms. I mean, classic and original are way too close, so are remastered and reboot.

I mean, the original title is long enough, swap words and everyone will think it's witty...
Big Little Adventure
Little Big Beginning
Little Bigger Adventure

Iunno, I feel like it's just adding 2 and 2 together...

Or if it's just a port that runs natively on Windows, don't make a new name for it, I mean it's the same game...

[Quetch]

The original name should have stayed intact for both the "modernized" version currently on GoG and Steam, as well as this new remaster they've announced. The only thing you need to put is a suffix to let people know what version it is.

[SpaceGuitarist]

Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 1 Classic Steam edition
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 2 Classic Steam edition
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 1 Original
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 2 Original
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 1 Classic GoG edition
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 2 Classic GoG edition
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 1 Remastered
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 2 Remastered
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 1 Remake
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 2 Remake
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 1 Reboot
Twinsen's Little Big Adventure 2 Reboot

(...)

[SpaceGuitarist]

Originally Posted by Quetch

The original name should have stayed intact

Right?

LBA 1.
LBA 2.

and then LBA 3.

Period.

[Polaris]

LBA 5 : Relentless returns to the odyssey.

[bloodhound]

Originally Posted by Polaris

The FFVII names don't make more sense to be frank, but I think the problem with LBA is that they used synonyms. I mean, classic and original are way too close, so are remastered and reboot.

I mean, the original title is long enough, swap words and everyone will think it's witty...
Big Little Adventure
Little Big Beginning
Little Bigger Adventure

Iunno, I feel like it's just adding 2 and 2 together...

Or if it's just a port that runs natively on Windows, don't make a new name for it, I mean it's the same game...

Nice idea! And then Little Big Remake for the reboot

Originally Posted by SpaceGuitarist

Right?

LBA 1.
LBA 2.

and then LBA 3.

Period.

I guess business-wise the enhanced editions weren't a bad idea.

[Polaris]

Those are essentially Windows 10 ports, but it was the same game... Just calling them LBA - Windows version would've been enough...

[CiB]

So firstly, I'd combine the classic and classic original versions into one game with a bunch of features we can turn off or ignore (stuff like new game+). Besides that from what I can see there isn't much difference between "Classic" and "Classic original".

So we have those editions called simply "Little Big Adventure: Relentless" and "Little Big Adventure 2: Twinsen's Oddysey" (In both cases I've just put a bit of the American names after the colon.)

After that, all other editions can be called "has no compelling reason to exist".

[SpaceGuitarist]

Wait till Gabe Newell finds out that before he can release Half-Life 3, he must first release:

Gordon Freeman's Half-life 1 Classic
Gordon Freeman's Half-life 2 Classic
Gordon Freeman's Half-life 1 Remake
Gordon Freeman's Half-life 2 Remake
Gordon Freeman's Half-life 1 Reboot
Gordon Freeman's Half-life 2 Reboot

* whelp *

I guess we all know why HL-3 is not confirmed yet.

[SpaceGuitarist]

....Hahaha! But, jokes aside: There's a reason why LBA1 was marketed as Relentless in certain countries, just as LBA2 was named Twinsen's Odyssey.

In Brazil for instance, afaik, LBA1/Relenteless was never released here, so when the time for LBA2 came around they simply decided to call it Twinsen's Odyssey, and there are NO references in the game box, manual, or anywhere whatsoever that this game was a sequel. It was simply Twinsen's Odyssey, you installed the game and had fun. Period.

And yet, nobody felt like that was a bad move that "confused LBA1's fans" nor did people not buy the game because "I don't know who Twinsen is". It's a bloody game, it looks cute and you buy it for your kids so they stop bothering around the house. And that was in the 90's, and yet, those who knew the first game were NOT confused about it being a sequel, I dont think I've ever come across anyone in this community who was confused about which is LBA1 and which is LBA2, they just probably looked at the different title name, thought nothing at all about it and carried on with their lifes like anybody else would.

[CS2x]

Originally Posted by SpaceGuitarist

....Hahaha! But, jokes aside: There's a reason why LBA1 was marketed as Relentless in certain countries, just as LBA2 was named Twinsen's Odyssey.

In Brazil for instance, afaik, LBA1/Relenteless was never released here, so when the time for LBA2 came around they simply decided to call it Twinsen's Odyssey, and there are NO references in the game box, manual, or anywhere whatsoever that this game was a sequel. It was simply Twinsen's Odyssey, you installed the game and had fun. Period.

And yet, nobody felt like that was a bad move that "confused LBA1's fans" nor did people not buy the game because "I don't know who Twinsen is". It's a bloody game, it looks cute and you buy it for your kids so they stop bothering around the house. And that was in the 90's, and yet, those who knew the first game were NOT confused about it being a sequel, I dont think I've ever come across anyone in this community who was confused about which is LBA1 and which is LBA2, they just probably looked at the different title name, thought nothing at all about it and carried on with their lifes like anybody else would.

That's interesting. I liked your account here. It's true one could play LBA2 and not be aware of (or bothered by) the fact it's a sequel. However even as I kid I did notice it referred back to Twinsen's past exploits and desperately wanted to play LBA1 after. Couldn't get MS DOS to recognise my CD drive though, no matter what I or anyone else did with that PC.

Why is it called "Little Big Adventure" anyway? What does it mean? I like the name but don't get what it means exactly...other than it being an adventure that is, uh, little, but also kind of big.

[SpaceGuitarist]

Originally Posted by CS2x

That's interesting. I liked your account here. It's true one could play LBA2 and not be aware of (or bothered by) the fact it's a sequel. However even as I kid I did notice it referred back to Twinsen's past exploits and desperately wanted to play LBA1 after. Couldn't get MS DOS to recognise my CD drive though, no matter what I or anyone else did with that PC.

Why is it called "Little Big Adventure" anyway? What does it mean? I like the name but don't get what it means exactly...other than it being an adventure that is, uh, little, but also kind of big.

Interesting. For me, those bits of dialogue about his past were just to "enrich the storytelling", to make the characters more real and doable, like they were not born yesterday. They have a life, have stories to tell, etc. It just added to the realism of telling who they are. Of course, later we found them to be true accounts of his former game, but that was not in the way of understanding the game at all.

I think it's a typically french humour kind of name, as we see in a scene that they're really little (the size of a chess piece of our real world), so, these little people are living big adventures.

[Polaris]

Originally Posted by CS2x

Why is it called "Little Big Adventure" anyway? What does it mean?

I've always thought it was some sort joking reference to the battle of Little Bighorn, or the movie Little Big Man.

Frankly, the Half-Life titles aren't very clear either chronologically speaking, but they certainly are better than the The LBA mess we have now

[bloodhound]

Originally Posted by SpaceGuitarist

Wait till Gabe Newell finds out that before he can release Half-Life 3, he must first release:

Gordon Freeman's Half-life 1 Classic
Gordon Freeman's Half-life 2 Classic
Gordon Freeman's Half-life 1 Remake
Gordon Freeman's Half-life 2 Remake
Gordon Freeman's Half-life 1 Reboot
Gordon Freeman's Half-life 2 Reboot

* whelp *

I guess we all know why HL-3 is not confirmed yet.

It's interesting that Valve didn't release a Half-Life 2 Remake yet, isn't it? That would be easy money. Maybe it's because they give employees much autonomy in deciding on what to work on, and it's a private company, unlike for example Blizzard.

[Polaris]

Blizzard isn't a private company ?

[Neko]

There are several things to ponder.

I don't mind a remake or remaster, if above all else it is faithfully to the original spirit. Which between lba 1 and 2 is a complete different beast alltogether.

but most importantly, a new company should have focus, one message, one strategy, one game, one artwork direction.

We now have seen 3 different artwork styles, the wimpy twinsen, pictures of the reboot, and now a cartoony remake. Whoever is in charge should make up his mind.

Now from financial standpoint, i can see how making a low hanging fruit new game can be benetifial for financing, proving there is still value. But such a remake is very likely to not bring in much new audiences, so I doubt it is such a smart move.

A remaster of the original, in true to original graphics, 3d, expanded islands and quests, beter controls....I'd love that for lba1. i wish that one was 3d already. For lba2 it doesn't make much sense as that one was already great. If the rebooth is redoing lba1, then there is no need for a remake/remaster.

If a remaster is done in C&C style, simply uplifting the graphics, then sure, I'd love that. But that shouldn't take too much time from the new new game, which should be focus.

Btw: on the naming thing, why not skip the numbers, and just ad new subtitels?

Little Big Adventure - Relentless
Little Big Adventure - Twinsen's odyssee
Little Big Adventure - The Legend (reboot)
Little Big Adventure - Alien Landing (reboot 2)
Little Big Adventure - Stellar entity Genesis (reboot 3)

[Polaris]

Oh I like these names !

[bloodhound]

Originally Posted by Polaris

Blizzard isn't a private company ?

I meant it in the sense that Blizzard is publicly traded, so they have to care about shareholder value.

I also like the names, except for "stellar entity genesis" (which I know was the originally envisioned title). I think that just means "star birth" (which sounds dumber though)? "A New Star" is maybe better. Hard to say without knowing the plot

[CUvox]

Originally Posted by Polaris

Those are essentially Windows 10 ports, but it was the same game... Just calling them LBA - Windows version would've been enough...

I think reboot consuming only twice memory as original would be possible, while still working on non-NT flavor of Windows, such as Windows Me!

[Polaris]

... Why would they do that ?

[CUvox]

Originally Posted by Polaris

... Why would they do that ?

To not be memory hog makers!