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Old 2008-09-03, 21:55
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We Love FOX News -- Mass Effect should be AO

Old news, but hilarious and frustrating at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU

Some priceless quotes:

"If you look at the statistics --- who's playing games but adolescent males, not their dads."
--Cooper Lawrence, a psychology specialist in bullshit statistics.



Cooper: "[Games] show women as objects of desire. As these hot bodies. They don't show women for their values other than their sexuality. And it's the man in this game that decides how many women he wants to be with."
Keighley: "Cooper, have you ever played Mass Effect?"
Cooper: "No! [laughs]"
--Geoff Keighley, game critic, asks Cooper an absurd question.


"I'm not sure why it didn't get an Adults Only rating. It's the highest rating it can have. So first of all, this board that rates them needs to have their head examined."
--A FOX news Panel spokesperson who never played the game.

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Old 2008-09-03, 23:40
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In what world are they living? They seriously have a problem. Not informed at all, and no idea about parenting as well. If you don't want your children to play this game, you shouldn't care about the rating but just don't let it into your house.

I don't see their problem either. This game was rated 16 by the USK, which means that the nudity & sex are at a very low level. Yet, they think that is very damaging and come up with rubbish sentences like ""Full graphical nudity - imagine that!"". It's violence they should care about, not sex. Because violence is actually the thing you don't want your kids to do in later life.
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Old 2008-09-03, 23:44
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wait what? i completed mass effect and didnt see any nudity or sex at all

Does it all depend on what you say ingame?

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Old 2008-09-03, 23:48
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What? Mass Effect has no nudity or even much violence... from what I've seen so far.
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I'm pretty sure there's nothing to be said about that topic that hadn't been said a million times already... anyway, the real damage to children is seeing adults get so worked up about the dumbest things. It screws them up.
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Old 2008-09-03, 23:49
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wait what? i cpmpleted mass effect and didnt see any nudity or sex at all

Does it all depend on what you say ingame?
It's what they call “Mass Effect can be customized to sodomize whatever, whomever, however, the game player wishes,” and “with its ‘over the net’ capabilities virtual orgasmic rape is just the push of a button away.”
Some guy really said that on the internet. Talk of "misinformation".
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Old 2008-09-03, 23:53
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In that case, a blank piece of paper should also be rated "AO" because with a draw of a pencil you can make it show virtual orgasmic ungodly images.
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Old 2008-09-03, 23:56
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In that case, a blank piece of paper should also be rated "AO" because with a draw of a pencil you can make it show virtual orgasmic ungodly images.
Indeed. People are also worried about the Wii microphone because children could meet pedophiles there.
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Old 2008-09-04, 00:03
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In a perfect world, children would be locked in a small room with a smiley clad wallpaper, and a thinking helmet on their heads that electrifies them each time they think an indecent thought. They would only be released to the real world once they're 18 years old.

Oh wait, that would not be a perfect world at all.
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Wtf is wrong with nudity and sex? I don't seem to get this. Kids see their stuff in front of the mirror all the time. If they want to play the game, they will, period. I say to hell with game ratings, parenting is not about prohibiting stuff, but about making your kids ready to face it.
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Old 2008-09-04, 00:19
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The sad part of this is how factualy wrong the media can be without appoligizing.
Bloody scary.
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Old 2008-09-04, 00:22
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Wtf is wrong with nudity and sex? I don't seem to get this. Kids see their stuff in front of the mirror all the time. If they want to play the game, they will, period. I say to hell with game ratings, parenting is not about prohibiting stuff, but about making your kids ready to face it.
You'll be a bizarre kind of parent.
I don't doubt it's a good thing to protect them from certain things when they're younger.
It's about introducing it when the parent thinks the child is ready.
Anyway, I digress.
Game ratings are important for parents so they know what is safe for them not to have to check it out first.
If it's a higher rating they can look it up;
If it's fine then no problem.
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Old 2008-09-04, 00:24
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can I just say something ? this is probably the most stupid debate EVER ... I mean why all the fuss about sex inside games, when a kid who really wants porn stuff, can just google for "pussy" ???
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Old 2008-09-04, 00:25
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The Kid is ready when he/she is ready. Every parent is always overprotective and can't know and will not know stuff like that.

The time to tell kids about stuff is when they ask. Game ratings are for lazy idiots who can't play through the game beforehand and check it on their own. And, when you raise your child properly you will not need game ratings. Couse no game will be able to "harm" the kid.
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can I just say something ? this is probably the most stupid debate EVER ... I mean why all the fuss about sex inside games, when a kid who really wants porn stuff, can just google for "pussy" ???
http://images.google.co.uk/images?so...=1&sa=N&tab=wi

I just had a thought, that what if a kid types pussy into google images looking for a pussy cat . Unless you have turned off "Moderate SafeSearch" (it is ON by default), nothing overally bad comes up - unless they know what a magic pussy pump is. "Pussy & Ass" is probably the worst result there (atleast on the 1st page, didn't bother looking further).

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I say to hell with game ratings, parenting is not about prohibiting stuff, but about making your kids ready to face it.
I agree with that partially, like in this specific case; it wouldn't really work if say the kid was going to commit suicide or something (don't worry son, I'll prepare you to be ready for suicide). That's obviously not what you meant though.
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Old 2008-09-04, 00:39
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http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...=1&sa=N&tab=iw

this is the link u want I never said anything about images ... the actual site search does the "wonders" :P and Jasiek is right
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Game ratings are for lazy idiots who can't play through the game beforehand and check it on their own.
I think thats unresonable.
Some games are MASSIVE, and would take far too long to play over, and would be very boring for anyone that dosnt like the genre.
To "check" media before a child views is very unresonable.

Parents have to trust ratings, and by-in-large, ratings are good...especialy when the break it down into violence/sex/swearing etc.
Ratings boards can play over games a lot more completely, and the game makers themselfs can more accurarely reflect and know whats in a game too.

The problem comes when parents dont even look at the ratings, or the media dosnt even look at the game before delclareing the ratings are wrong.

The ratings are a usefull guide, parents are free to ignore it, but cant complain if they do.
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What all of you guys are missing is how awesome it is that a hugely viewed news network like FOX can tell people about video game smut. What self respecting FOX lover would not believe a psychology specialist over a dumbass game "expert?"
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Old 2008-09-04, 01:16
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One thing you can be sure of: that boosted Mass Effect sales.
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News people are so idiotics sometimes.

"Education to the masses", yeah sure...

Stereotypical and superficial.

Btw: You can't be serious! How to speak about something that you didn't try it, and we're not speaking about drugs. It's a damn game, just play it and later we will speak.
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...Ms. Lawrence said that since the controversy over her remarks erupted she had watched someone play the game for about two and a half hours. "I recognize that I misspoke," she said. "I really regret saying that, and now that I've seen the game and seen the sex scenes it's kind of a joke.

"Before the show I had asked somebody about what they had heard, and they had said it's like pornography," she added. "But it's not like pornography. I've seen episodes of 'Lost' that are more sexually explicit."
What's sad is that her book sales plummeted after angry gamers trashed her ratings on Amazon. The irony being that many of them didn't even read her book. Oh well. She started it by doing the same thing.
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Old 2008-09-04, 03:11
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None of the mass media does it right. There was a recent thing on FoxNews about PS3 Home and it had shots of someone playing Halo 3...
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There is more to the Media then Fox.
I hate to say it, being all British and that, but BBC does tend to not state things that are flatly wrong.
And, if they make a mistake, they rather halariously report on it from a 3rd party perspective.
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Old 2008-09-04, 15:53
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What all of you guys are missing is how awesome it is that a hugely viewed news network like FOX can tell people about video game smut. What self respecting FOX lover would not believe a psychology specialist over a dumbass game "expert?"
The problem is obviously that most of the MBN never watches Fox.
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It sounds like that's a good thing actually.
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I hate to say it, being all British and that, but BBC does tend to not state things that are flatly wrong.
Can't remember who/when/what it was about, but I recall an on-the-news-interview where they mixed up somebody with the same name who was going for a job-application-interview. The guy actually played along and pretended he was the real person thinking it was a test of some sort or something.
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