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Old 2002-11-06, 19:09
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Hello there,
Pretty sure some crazy talented guys such as El, wacko + lots more will join in (hell, maybe even the programmer?).
So I'll keep it short:
The savegame editor by el muerte, based on HEX editing as far as I know, has the ability to move yourself to any island in LBA2.
Now imagine if you take the car, and move yourself to another island with the program, You're stuck.
Unless you press CTRL and walk further, you cannot move any inch.
I got a few short questions about this:
1. Why can't you move? Surely the program makers did not do this on purpose I presume.
2. What can be done against it? Is it VERY hard? or is there anyway to prevent this?

I doubt someone knows, but hey, got to try right? It's very promising to drive ya car in citadel island and such.
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Old 2002-11-06, 19:15
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Heh got this idea from the other thread I remember seeing screenshots of people who could move their car around Citadel as well as other islands, might have been an edited pic though. El could make a new version of the savegame editor if he or someone else can fix this. I believe there's another unofficial savegame editor at the MBN files section, perhaps it might work there.
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Old 2002-11-06, 21:03
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Well, appearently they did something special with Desert Island to make the car movable. I think this has to do with the tilting of the car: any models of Twinsen (space suit, wizard, plain, etc) don't tilt when you walk on a slope. So the car is special with that. And my guess is it's not easy to remake that on the other islands.
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Old 2002-11-18, 09:10
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oh cool

i want this to happen... i wanna drive the car on emarald moon
i wanna drive it everywhere?
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Old 2002-11-18, 12:00
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places where you can move with the car have a special flag set. There are some places on Desert Island where you can't drive with the car. It's not those poles that are keeping you out of the village, it's just that after that point the area doesn't have the right flag set.
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Old 2016-10-10, 16:20
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I know this is like ages, but the question still stands. is it easy to make it so to drive the car in any lba 2 island?

That would kick ass

maybe with lba architect?
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Old 2016-10-11, 23:18
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It should be possible by changing Twinsen's Control mode using the scripts. I think you can actually control any other actor by changing that mode.

You won't be able to use the Architect because it doesn't allow to change outside scenes. Zink will need to do a special version that doesn't draw any grid, just the actors, zones and points so that you could understand the script.
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Old 2016-10-12, 12:59
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so it's not a matter of the grids?
Because when you edit your savegame and place twinsen with car on another island, you cannot drive
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Old 2016-10-19, 11:09
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I think it might be as easy as adding INIT_BUGGY command at the beginning if the Twinsen's script for each scene. Also the latest version of Architect should be able to open outside scenes in advanced mode (you have to select any isometric background). I will try to check these later when I'm back from work.
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Old 2016-10-19, 18:22
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Look like it's more complicated than simple adding a command.

The scenes where the buggy may enter contain a special actor with an empty car model (appearing conditionally), and special script that initializes it and handles getting in.

To make the car available in other locations you would have to copy the car actor, and perhaps some part of the script from the Twinsen actor, and then move Twinsen with car there.
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Old 2016-10-20, 16:46
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so it is not going to be easy :|
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Old 2016-10-21, 09:23
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Old 2016-10-24, 12:24
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sure if you can do this...that would be great.

I am really interested in playing as a different character and in riding the car in other islands.
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Old 2016-10-30, 17:50
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Is indeed more challenging.
I've tried by changing the script but for some reason didn't work. I can see the buggy being triggered and motor sound start, but the camera goes to nowhere.
I am sure it will be possible, its just a matter of understanding how the script works and which dependencies has.
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Old 2016-10-31, 17:47
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What would be nice would to be able to drive the car on places like Emerald Moon, Zeelich, and the Zeelich Undergas.
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Old 2016-10-31, 21:34
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that is exactly what i want Battler

you know why originally? because before the jump save bug you had to use the carglitch to get up to mountains
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Old 2016-10-31, 22:40
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Not that this is a completely legit way of doing it, but it is clearly possible to drive the car anywhere in the game - I've tested this a couple to few years ago. It's just that when you do drive the car on other islands besides Desert Island, as soon as you get out of the vehicle, it will instantly destroy itself and give you a power up - I think hearts.

When you are in the car on Desert Island, save the game. Get out. Change one of the indices of the Desert Island zones in the LBA Package Editor. Build the output file. Get back into the game. Now, load your save and drive to the zone that you switched. If needed, it might also help to change the car moving animation to Twinsen's jump animation.

Once you are in that other zone from another island, save the game as a different file. After that, revert your built file in LBA Package Editor back to normal. You can do this for every island in the game, but as soon as you step out of that car, it's going to disappear no matter what. Desert Island doesn't have any problems because the car is scripted to work for all zones related to Desert Island, like Xesf stated. The way in which I have pointed this out is a rather stupid and longer way of doing it, but it does indeed work.

I might have some older saves and screenshots somewhere...
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Old 2016-11-01, 20:59
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I really need a simpler version of doing this.

isn't it possible to edit the script of the game so you can easily edit your savegame and drive on every island, without swapping animations?

the only bother would then be editing game location where you are in the savegame
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I've had the car driving on Citadel Island, and the Car driving on Otringal before.


With my LBATrainer (posted else where), it's possible to force the behaviour switch to the car.


It's weird though. IDK why, but sometimes the car works properly, and sometimes it doesn't. Even with exactly the same setups.


If anybody wants to discuss this feel free to PM me, either now, or in 5 years time
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