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Old 2020-04-29, 16:52
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Any Music composers in the house

Recently I have developed a new passion for music creation but I have no idea what to do and where to start.

So, I am here looking for some advice on what software should I go for as a newbie. I watched some youtube videos on this subject and they were suggesting software like Audacity, Logic pro X, garageband, FL studio, walk band, etc.

I am not sure which of these softwares would be an ideal choice for a beginner.

​​​​​​​Any suggestions?
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Old 2020-04-30, 19:10
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For a beginner if you ask me I would suggest you to go for Gargeband and then slowly move towards more advanced DAW like Reaper, Ableton, Logic Pro X, etc. It is simple to use and has an easy interface with lots of in-built instruments and mixing features.

I am currently using Reaper on my windows system I wish I could use garageband on my windows system but it is only designed for MacOS right? Or is there a way to run it on Windows?
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Old 2020-04-30, 21:30
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Having used a lot of DAWs before (windows and Mac) I'd say in general:
Start with something that is very limited and only move to something when there are features missing that literally stop you from creating.

Most DAWs have a huge amount of functions which tend overwhelm at first and really inhibiting a creative flow. Garage Band is awesome in that regard as it limits you to basic functionalities which still allow you to create and when you really push it to the limits, you can upgrade to Logic where there's everything you already know and more on top.

@alex: unfortunately Garageband and Logic only work on Mac-architecture. Otherwise I'd already have a windows-laptop solely for running MainStage (which is logic for live performance). Ableton live just isn't cutting it on that front.
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Old 2020-05-01, 01:12
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I'll strongly suggest learning how to play an instrument as a foundation. And not just beginner level. Yes, you can compose amazing pieces without having an instrument as a basis, BUT there are 99% chances you'll just end up playing around in a DAW with "cool sounds" like pads, synths, orchestral arrangements, etc. every now and then and never really get anywhere. Learning an instrument provides musical insights like nothing else out there. You'll understand WHY certain intervals work and others don't, how keys relate to chords, modal concepts, harmony and much more...
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Old 2020-05-01, 17:21
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Garage Band is awesome in that regard as it limits you to basic functionalities which still allow you to create and when you really push it to the limits, you can upgrade to Logic where there's everything you already know and more on top.
Thank you!

I asked this question on a few other forums as well and most of them suggested exactly the same thing. So I am going to move forward like this only. I will start with Garageband and see how it goes from there.
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Old 2020-05-01, 17:26
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I'll strongly suggest learning how to play an instrument as a foundation.
That is really wise advice. Thank you!

Actually, I am learning how to play a keyboard and been learning it for around 6 months. I was thinking to start my journey by doing some basic mixing and editing on pre-recorded stuff and get used to the interface and functions before recording my own music.
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Old 2020-05-01, 17:32
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I am currently using Reaper on my windows system I wish I could use garageband on my windows system but it is only designed for MacOS right? Or is there a way to run it on Windows?
Thank you Alex!

As you said yourself it is for macOS and iOS only but you can still use one OS apps on another OS by using emulators like VMWare. Read this guide and see if that works.

I must tell you this, I have never done it myself but this guide says it is possible .
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Old 2020-05-01, 18:00
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I'll strongly suggest learning how to play an instrument as a foundation. And not just beginner level.
So true, pretty much the best possible advice.
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Old 2020-05-01, 18:41
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Recently I have developed a new passion for music creation but I have no idea what to do and where to start.

So, I am here looking for some advice on what software should I go for as a newbie. I watched some youtube videos on this subject and they were suggesting software like Audacity, Logic pro X, garageband, FL studio, walk band, etc.

I am not sure which of these softwares would be an ideal choice for a beginner.

​​​​​​​Any suggestions?
What kind of music do you want to write?

I love Ableton live, it is so easy and everything is in 1 screen.

For piano music however, I would recommend Sibelius or another music notation program that actually works with regular notation. I just started using that and it does make a difference!

This is this:

1. write for the love of writing. My music was sucking for the first 6 year but I did it for fun. Do not expect great results, or compare you to others too much. Just create stuff.

2. The program you write in does affect your writing style! I write differently in sibelius than in ableton, ableton makes for different writing than in a tracker program. The tools you use make a difference, once you get comfortable with a program, do not be afraid to try another one. Preferably one with a different workflow.
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Old 2020-05-02, 15:13
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once you get comfortable with a program, do not be afraid to try another one. Preferably one with a different workflow
True. I've experimented dozens of different software before settling down onto the current combo I use. Combining software can give you extra flexibility. Not to mention plugins... lots of plugins. So, yes, don't be afraid to try out different ones.
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Old 2020-05-02, 15:58
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you still use modplugtracker right?

I am glad to be out of tracker zone, somehow the piano roll works better for me
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Yes, tracker style programs work best for me. But recently its mostly for beats or synth loops only. Most of my music is now about recording real life instruments/performances instead of laying down notes on software. I find it that you can get more unusual structures that way.
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Old 2020-07-16, 19:07
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I will start with Garageband and see how it goes from there.
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Old 2020-07-18, 20:58
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what kind of music do you want to write?
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Old 2020-07-20, 15:39
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what kind of music do you want to write?
The guy is clearly a bot / spammer
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