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Old 2003-03-07, 13:44
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I completely disagree with you. So, according to what you say, I'm not a Jew. I see myself as a Jew, and you won't tell me whether I'm a Jew or not!
But why do you see yourself as a jew? Just because your mom's one?

(if you ask me, that's a waste )
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Old 2003-03-07, 13:46
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Yes. Do you have a problem with that?
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Old 2003-03-07, 13:47
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I don't have a problem with it, I just think it's a waste
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Old 2003-03-07, 13:49
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A waste of what, exactly?
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Old 2003-03-07, 14:00
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hard to explain, but I think it's a waste to turn your back on to customs and such of a population, but still saying your a part of that population

but it's everyone's own choice
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Old 2003-03-07, 14:01
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What population are you referring to, exactly?
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Old 2003-03-07, 14:03
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Doesn't matter which population, it's a hypothetical statement

but in your case "Jewish People"
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Old 2003-03-07, 14:04
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Since I'm a Jew too, I wouldn't call it "turning my back to the Jewish people".
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Old 2003-03-07, 15:31
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I am sorry for the poor word-order and the typos in my question.

It was: is it possible to see jews just as a people and not as people with the same religion? Does the jewish identity not incorporate the jewish religion?
The answer is yes.
"Jewdism" is the only thing in the entire world that is also a nationality, and also a religion.

Jews have kept contact between themselves all around the world, and have (mostly) never stopped practicing jewdism.
The reason we needed our own country is that we will always be treated as a different people, just because we're jews.

My opinion:

I think that the most important thing that we should practice as jews is too help one another, serve our country. All the religious customs should come in second priority.

And according to the bible, my opinion is almost identicle to god's
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Old 2003-03-07, 15:34
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I'm not really sure what being a Jew means, but it certainly doesn't mean believing in God or anything religious. Why won't I ask you what makes you Christian?
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Old 2003-03-08, 00:16
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That's the thing, christianity is only a religion, it has nothing to do with people or what's so ever, except if you perhaps talk about Armenian
Still, when I think of Judism, the first thing I think about is the rich history, but also the religion.
Whether you like it or not, but the Jewish religion is very much entangled with the Jewish people.

Don't get me wrong, I do not see anything wrong with considdering yourself Jewish if you actually put 'effort' in being jewish

However, I do think it's stupid when I hear of "Jewish Humanists". I mean... that just doesn't make sense if you ask me.
Hard to explain but I think it's nonsense because it seems you want be put in a different catagory because your jewish. I'm not saying I'm a Noble <Whatever>?
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this is really offtopic. and no one has closed/deleted anything. WEEPIE!!!!!!
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Old 2003-03-08, 04:51
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As I've said - Atre doesn't give a damn about others, and closes threads only if she doesn't have a part in the conversation .
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Old 2003-03-08, 04:55
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so, the moral of this story is...let atresica into the conversation or die! i get it! j/k
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Old 2003-03-08, 04:57
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Yeah .

Atresica- I don't quite get your point. What's your bottom line?
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Old 2003-03-08, 12:18
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bottom line is that 1) you people are too stupid to realise some of the actions have been changed 2) you got some really fucked up theories.
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bottom line is that 1) you people are too stupid to realise some of the actions have been changed 2) you got some really fucked up theories.
atresica, i was kidding
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Old 2003-03-09, 05:15
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I have got fucked up theories? My theories are based upon facts. But when I ask the orthodoxes how they know God exists, they tell me they just know. This is what you call a theory?
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Old 2003-03-09, 07:36
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guys...relax, we're on the same team, right?
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Old 2003-03-09, 22:03
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I was talking about other theories, of course I would never call the ones you're mentioning as fucked up
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Old 2003-03-10, 05:36
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Then what were you talking about?
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