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Old 2007-05-11, 20:23
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PSP vs NDS

Which one should I buy? and why?
Also, what are the great games on these system.
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Nintendo DS:
- Touchscreen / microphone etc
- DS download play, 2 DSs & 1 game = multiplayer
- Homebrew basically allows it to do all the multimedia stuff PSP does

-Good games
Mario 64 remake (if you're not bored of it )
Mario Kart
Pokemon Pearl/Diamond
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Tetris DS
Metroid Hunters
Final Fantasy 3
Bomberman (only good multiplayer though)

and don't forget the future release of Zelda Phantom Hourglass

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-better battery life
-basically all GBA games (not multiplayer GBA though)
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Old 2007-05-11, 20:40
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Depends what you want it for really.

I love my DS and use it mostly for;

Homebrew;
~~Playing Scumm games.
~~Listening to MP3's and music streams from the wifi.
~~Reading comics.
~~Playing the odd Nes game.

Commercial;

~~Absolutely love Advanced Wars
~~Highly enjoyed Another Code, but it was very short. (have yet to play Hotel Dusk with is another P&C game for it)

~~ Metroid Hunters, Mario Kart, and Sonic Rush are all great games I enjoyed. Many people seem to have problems with hunters controll scheme, but using the thumbstap I found it very fast and responsive.

Metroid and Mario Kart also work great online.

Other reasons to get a DS;

~GBA slot. (if you havnt got a GBA, you can catch up on some games. Personaly Id recomend GoldenSun1/2 and "Mario and Luigi's SuperStarSaga"[/. The DS sequal was rubbish in comparison. WarioWare Twisted is also highly recomended
oh, and of course, Zelda; The Minish Cap is simply wonderfull)

~Upcoming games. Like the GBA before it, there is a matrix-fuckload of RPGs coming.
Theres a new Worms game coming that is online-enabled and feature wise looks superb.
However, the first/currently out worms game on the DS sucked.
Theres also a few interesting looking projects on the horizon, specificaly;
http://uk.ds.ign.com/articles/786/786746p1.html

oh, and its getting a fair number of old pc ports. (SimCity and such)
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Old 2007-05-11, 21:10
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i have a psp, prefered it to the nintendo ds cos i prefer sport(pro evolution soccer )/war/violent games. Later i found out that the psp has shitloads of emulators like GBA, SNES, and NES. I don't know what else the DS can do, but you can read html files (thus play flash/java games) with a psp, and i find it useful for school, (IE repeating lessons in the toilet), and also nice to read ebooks with
Also, you can listen mp3s with your psp (again, i dont know what the DS can doo :P)

and.. uh..
Images! You can put pics directly from you computer or your digital camera and watch them as you please.

Videos!
some FROM avi TO mp4 converter and you can watch ripp... er... movies wherever you want.

Cant remember anything else ATM. All I know is that I pretend Sony to pay me for posts like this.
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DS.
Why?
Castlevania, Megaman, Mario, Sonic, Metroid, Zelda and with some nice homebrew stuff you'll be able to play the old point & click adventures on it with your stylus! Instant win!

For great games out right now:
New Super Mario Bros.
Sonic Rush
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Metroid Prime: Hunters
Megaman ZX
Trauma Center: Under the Knife (very addictive, you perform surgery with your stylus)
Final Fantasy III
Tetris DS
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I'd go with DS, but that's just because I think I'd like the games better for that console.

But I own neither, so take that opinion for what it is. All I know is that if I had someone ask me which I'd rather have right now, I'd take the DS.
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With the PSP you can even put 95 on there so you could (eventually) run LBA 1 & 2!

I think the PSP is better (though I don't have one yet )
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I'd go with DS, but that's just because I think I'd like the games better for that console.

But I own neither, so take that opinion for what it is. All I know is that if I had someone ask me which I'd rather have right now, I'd take the DS.
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when both launched, they were pretty much equal

but now, the PSP is a huge failure outside of the homebrew community, and the DS is a success in every aspect.
Most developer's have completely shifted focus from PSP to DS, with the number's DS is bringing in, it would be foolish not to

and consider stuff like square enix, pretty much completely shunned the PSP, getting new final fantasy games, 3d remakes, not to mention dragon quest, all of which has surprised sony, so much so that theyve even confirmed some of square's DS games for PSP, and once they realize the games arent for PSP, they take it down and pretend it never happened.

and, if you get an R4 flash cart, you're away, download whatever games you want, snes emulation is almost perfect, NES, GBC etc
and there's tons of cool homebrew for DS

there's just absolutely no competition now.
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Bit early to call snes "almost perfect", its vastely better then it was, but still lacks quite a few critical features.
NesDS is beyond perfect however.
Having Rewind and FastForward on on game just rocks

But yes, its quite shocking the success of the DS. I havnt got them to hand, but the latest japanise sales figures were utterly insane.

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Also, you can listen mp3s with your psp (again, i dont know what the DS can doo :P)
Moonshell.nds and DSOrganise.nds together give the DS its most comprehensive media support;

Sound ~ MP3/OGG/MOD/SPC/GBS/HES/NSF/XM/flac and MIDI. (midi supprisingly good if you copy the 60MB soundfont onto your card )
oh, and ACC support, but limited at present.

Streaming audio/playlists ~ m3u,pls with mp3/ogg/acc can all be streamed from internet radio sites. (eg, OCremix)

Books ~ Just txt. Both moonshell and DSOrganise save your bookmarks, however. oh, also, HTML can be read/edited with colours/highlighting. (just in case for some bezire reason you want to make a webpage on the go )

Comics ~ Converts any comic book file to a ds comic book file which then reads nicely with the included software. (or, just download from a website that has them already in the DS's format;
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HTML ~ Currently just basic HTML reader, links, forms, custom shortcuts. Soon will support images, but Flash and Java are very unlikely.

Chat Clients ~ IRC built into DSO, works very good. Theres also seperately a nice MSN client and an AOL/ICQ one. Theres a very expiremental VoIP ones about too.

Wifi Misc ~ Theres a wireless database of game demos you can download straight from DSO's interface.

PC Interface ~ Theres a few bits of software to use the DS as a remote desktop for your pc. They work well, but screen updates are 2secs or more, so dont expect things mooth. Theres also software to use the DS as a wireless gamepad, but I havnt tried it.

Video ~ DPG only. (anything can be converted to DPG and it looks fine, but DPG is basicaly a form of Mpeg1/2 so isnt the most efficiant with space...but then, SD and CF cards are much cheaper then Memory sticks ).

Still, video is the DS's weakpoint, but personaly I dont user it for that anyway. Never bought in the whole "watching movies on the bus" idea.


Theres also lots of misc support I dont use (vCards ect), but Im just covering what I personaly got on my card in the way of "format support".


Frankly, getting a DS or PSP depends totaly on what commercial games you want.
DS is a bit weak with the sports line up indeed.

For DS owners that want to homebrew, DSOrganise and Moonshell are absolutely 100% essential, however.
Heck, I even customised the Moonshell screensaver/clock to by LBA themed

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With the PSP you can even put 95 on there so you could (eventually) run LBA 1 & 2!
No chance in hell.
Windows95 takes 10-16minutes or so to boot on the psp, and I seriously dought any direct-x stuff will work.

LBA1 could work ver a DOS emulator however.
Or, more easily, ver a PS1 emulator.
LBA1 also in theory works on the GP2X, but I havnt had a chance to try that.
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Hm...
Where did you get this homebrew and what do I need to run it?
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moonshell?
comes installed already on the R4 and some other carts, and its very easy to find on google
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does anyone have both a DS and PSP?

what I see so far is that the PSP has more interesting games.
what's the action/adventure status of the DS and PSP?
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Action adventure? There aren't many... still, a lot of action games (Tomb Raider, various Star Wars games, 007, metal gear, prince of persia, castelvania, call of duty, medal of honor...)
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Action adventure stuff is completely absent from the handhelds, basicaly
I mean, its dry enough on the consoles and pretty rare on PC.
Save for Zelda, of course.
Phantom Hourglass on the DS wont reach here for a few months anyway.

I guess Metroid Hunters is kinda an action adventure, but not as much as the console ones. (console ones have less emphasis on shooting stuff, so they feel more adventury, whereas the DS is more a straight FPS with lots of puzzles and ball rollling).

Also, I really wouldnt say the PSP has "more interesting" games.
It has a few interesting games (Locoroco is certainly nice, but its more or less a "nice" version of the PC shareware game "Gish". )

PSP games are mostly like PS2 games, expect sports, racing, ect.
DS has the more "interesting" (at least, interesting as in weird/unusual)

DS has certainly cornered the market in utterly crazy games;
http://uk.media.ds.ign.com/media/746/746980/vids_1.html


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What DS do you have?
Depending on firmware/version you can get away with different patching techiques.
Normaly you need 3 things, however;

* Adapter card, these can be as cheap as my GBAMP(£13), or you can get better ones with more Ram, ect.

* Media for the adapter. GBAMP use's compact flash, which is dirt cheap now. (£17 gets you 4GB!!). Other cards use SD which looks neater, and SD is almost as cheap. (amazon,was saleing 1GB SD's for just £3).

* Some sort of cracking device. You only need to use this once. What you need is probably a "passme2". This will basicaly tell the DS to boot code from the lower slot, thus allowing you to patch the firmware and let you run homebrew.
Once its patched you dont need the passme.
Normaly passme's are about £10, but you might be able to find someone else with one.

The process does depend on version of your system as theres a few veriables.
So the process requires a bit of effort at first, but once its done, its done forever.

Commercial DS games dont require or demand certain versions of ligitmete firmware on the system like the PSP does. (they are blind to it completely).




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Darkflame, both passme's are obsolete and aren't recommended at all anymore. Nopass's are very cheap too.

Basically the choices are:

Slot-1 card
Slot-2 card + Slot-1 nopass

Slot-2 + Nopass will get max compatability aslong as you get something that the DLDI (FAT FS support) and extra RAM. (such as all slot-2 supercards apart from rumble)
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the PSP has some action adventure games, like the GTA games and actually interesting looking PoP games.
the action adventure like games on the DS are pretty much all FF like games, I don't really like FF like RPGs.
Zelda is cool though.
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there are some action adventure games for DS already (not including all the ones on GBA)
I wish someone would translate the goemon game on DS, coz Ive been playing it in japanese, and its frustrating :P

plus ninja gaiden and zelda will be out soon.. and FFCC too, its more of an action adventure than rpg

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What DS do you have?
How the hell would I find that out?

And what about warranty issues? Does it void the warranty?
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i know if you go into pictochat room A, then remove a DS game from slot 1, both screens will go a certain colour (mine go purple) and each colour represents a firmware version..

cant remember what colour means which tho :P
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Well if I had the charger I'd be able to check.
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You don't need to know your firmware, it's all obsolete except for wifime which is easier to just get a nopass anyway...
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Sound ~ MP3/OGG/MOD/SPC/GBS/HES/NSF/XM/flac and MIDI. (midi supprisingly good if you copy the 60MB soundfont onto your card )
Woah, NSF support? :O That's awesome!
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Yes, SPC is Snes sound too.
Its great for having an on-the-move collection of just about every game soundtrack ever

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and actually interesting looking PoP games.
Reviews say; Dont.

Basicaly they are ports of the home console versions, with added bugs and not so nice controlls.
They have added a few new things,but its 95% the same games you have completed before.


Much like the one that came out on the Wii recently.
Its just TwoThrones with new controlls.

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Yeah, FFCC is.
But then, its a bit light on puzzles.

If your going to the RPG side of Action/Adventure, you might as well look at Pokemon.
The portable games also have been quite good even if they are all a bit samey.
They normaly have some nice puzzles.
Allthough, if your going towards that end...
...you might as well get GoldenSun. Which, imo, takes the best elements of Pokemon, removes the borring bits, and gives it a hell of a nice story
Bloody good special effects too, considering its a GBA game.


According to IGN the action-adventures on the DS are;

http://uk.ds.ign.com/index/games.htm...rn_all=is_true

Frankly, half of them I wouldnt call AA games, and another quater arnt worth playing.

But then, the same goes for the PSP list, imho.
There just isnt really good action adventures on portables.
Not original ones anyway.

Personaly, theres more on this List that would appeal to me;

http://uk.ds.ign.com/index/games.htm...rn_all=is_true

Games just under "adventure".

Hotel Dusk: Room 215, LostInBlue2, Project Hacker ect.
Half those games look jap only though.
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