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Old 2008-06-06, 13:33
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Dino-Fly: Lightwing is correct. By asking such extremely simple questions as 'why have eyes evolved?'. You only show that you know absolutely nothing at all about the theory of evolution.
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Old 2008-06-06, 14:25
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Where is this amazing evidence the evolution is true?
I suggest deoxyribonucleic acid. Among many others.

Second, choose your words correctly. Evolution isn't "true". The words here are "correct" and "incorrect", or "mostly correct". Evolution is a scientific theory, not a statement.
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Old 2008-06-06, 17:07
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Wow, I should make myself a prophet, I could see that my post would be flamed.

First of all, someone said: 'Who made God?'
I'll give you my only answer: 'Only God knows.'


What I means by how did eyes evolve, I mean: 'Did the first animal to have eyes just pop up, and then all the rest just followed?' I don't believe mutation would have the power to create senses it that the organism didn't know existed.

Second, think of it, if mutation is the driving force of evolution, why did we all change in the same way?

Next, the idea that there were first single-cell organisms, which turned into fish, which magically turned into amphibians, which turned into reptiles, which turned into birds and mammals etc. is quite illogical, since we still have fish, reptiles, birds etc. and not just a master race of mammals.

Now then, the celocane is the fossil that connects water animals to land animals, since it has primitive legs, to an extent.
Then explain why when we found living examples of this living fossil, they hadn't evolved, they were surly old enough to had made a change since the age of the fossils they found of previous ones.

Just a comment, I've been to the Cradle Of Human Kind.


And lastly, the survival of the fittest thing, is the same as the view of Hitler, ALL EVOLUTIONISTS ARE NAZIS!!!11!!1
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Old 2008-06-06, 17:36
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Wow, I should make myself a prophet, I could see that my post would be flamed.

First of all, someone said: 'Who made God?'
I'll give you my only answer: 'Only God knows.'
Instead of having killer arguments, you could bring the discussion forward.
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What I means by how did eyes evolve, I mean: 'Did the first animal to have eyes just pop up, and then all the rest just followed?' I don't believe mutation would have the power to create senses it that the organism didn't know existed.
It took some few hundred thousand years at least to evolve the senses out of nothing.
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Second, think of it, if mutation is the driving force of evolution, why did we all change in the same way?
Evolution is limited to us. It requires a next generation to keep the change. If it is impossible for you to mate, you can't contribute anything. If a mutation makes you unable to mate with those of your kind, you can't have children who have the same trait. Racism aside, you can still make out differences between humans today. Asians have different face features than Europeans. You can tell them apart.

There were other human races in the past, and there are many other life forms around you. We definitely didn't all "change the same way".
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Next, the idea that there were first single-cell organisms, which turned into fish, which magically turned into amphibians, which turned into reptiles, which turned into birds and mammals etc. is quite illogical, since we still have fish, reptiles, birds etc. and not just a master race of mammals.
There's no linear evolution. Some change quite a lot, some not really at all (crocodiles for example).

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Now then, the celocane is the fossil that connects water animals to land animals, since it has primitive legs, to an extent.
Then explain why when we found living examples of this living fossil, they hadn't evolved, they were surly old enough to had made a change since the age of the fossils they found of previous ones.
Living examples of a living fossil?

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And lastly, the survival of the fittest thing, is the same as the view of Hitler, ALL EVOLUTIONISTS ARE NAZIS!!!11!!1
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In fact, Hitler believed in evolution and not the other way round. Nah, this has nothing to do with Darwin.
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http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Coelacanth


Sorry for the mis-spelling.
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No one is flaming you Dino-Fly, I think most of us just want to help you learn. Being ignorant is bad for you and for everyone.
Some say it's a bliss... they may be right, but life is not about blissfulness imo.
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Fishos, I'm not being ignorant.

I made a choice, and I'm going to stick with it till the day I die.
But thanks a bunch anyhow.
I shall now continue being ignorant.
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Well right now you're uneducated(at least in the areas of physics and biology), and a choice between requires knowledge of the both sides of the coin. You haven't chosen anything, you just stayed where you where put into.
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Old 2008-06-06, 19:44
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Even the pope said "New knowledge leads us to recognize the theory of evolution [as] more than a hypothesis,"
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Fishos, I'm not being ignorant.

I made a choice, and I'm going to stick with it till the day I die.
But thanks a bunch anyhow.
I shall now continue being ignorant.
Aren't you like 13? You really shouldn't be making statements like that, you've got a whole life to learn all kinds of stuff. Don't shut yourself down.
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Old 2008-06-06, 21:21
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I made a choice, and I'm going to stick with it till the day I die.
You can't choose if evolution is real or not.
Just like you can't choose if there's gravity.

Also, your statement that only god knows who created him is logically incorrect.
A createe does not know who his creator is until someone tells the createe. After that the createe will believe it's true, but it doesn't have any proof.
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This thread is a waste of time. Everybody's arguing with a brick wall.
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Old 2008-06-06, 21:56
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Ah, so the benevolent creator made stupid pointless life forms?
He felt lazy on some days.
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You can't choose if evolution is real or not.
Just like you can't choose if there's gravity.
he'd better be careful, he might slowly drift away
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Old 2008-06-06, 22:38
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The graveyards are full of people who thought they could disobey gravity. The difference is that thinking you can defy evolution doesn't lead to instant death
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Old 2008-06-06, 22:42
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I can defy gravity, so long as I am in an aeroplane. And it doesn't always lead to instant death anyway, because you could just try to jump off like a shed or something which isn't very tall and hurt yourself but not die :P
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I wouldn't call that defying gravity. You're still relying on gravity to not go blasting into the atmosphere
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Old 2008-06-06, 23:20
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he'd better be careful, he might slowly drift away
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I can defy gravity, so long as I am in an aeroplane.
You don't defy gravity while you're in an airplane, becouse it does not fly by nullifying gravity, but by using pressure difference.
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Wasn't JEWBUS against pushing your religion on people?
Didnt he say something similar to "A religious man is not the one who prays in the streets but the one who prays in his home"?
also anyone who takes the bible literary is an idiot, its more of a guide line to be a better person, most of the stories in it were metaphors.
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Wasn't JEWBUS against pushing your religion on people?
Didnt he say something similar to "A religious man is not the one who prays in the streets but the one who prays in his home"?
also anyone who takes the bible literary is an idiot, its more of a guide line to be a better person, most of the stories in it were metaphors.
I don't see anyone pushing religion onto people. What is this a reply to?
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I don't see anyone pushing religion onto people. What is this a reply to?
to the whole thread and saying that god>evilution, is pushing religion.
edit: just so you dont get me confused its the same with GAWD<evolution.

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Old 2008-06-07, 03:05
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Heh, the belief in God is personal preference, evolution of the species is a fact. I think they can actually cure someone who's removed from the world and does not accept facts.
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yes yes, but everyone has a freedom to religion and by either pushing your own or just telling that theirs is wrong is suppressing their freedom. I think only the people who push their religion on others should be shot, the others can be free to believe whatever they want to believe and keep it to themselves.
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You could belief evolution is just a random piece of nonsense and let it rest. Or go and bother other people with your beliefs.

I find it hard to understand why someone would want to dismiss or ignore these wonderful insights.
If you fear there is no room for a god when you learn new things you might keep yourself in the dark for no good reason.

Science doesn't give meaning to the world, it's just a interesting part of it.

If you want to ignore it i guess you are free to do so. But if you want to use science itself as a tool to dismiss parts of it I suggest you become a scientist.
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We use intuition to come up with ideas/hypotheses, and science to dismiss them. Both are essential in gathering knowledge and 'meaning'.

If you decide not to use science, you're deciding to be stupid.
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