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But if thats friends or family its a bit rude.
Especially if they then say later "did you see my X" post.

Generally, I am interested in what my facebook friends have to say, but I dont care for their food pics. I care even less for their videogame achievements.
It just clogs up my feed. The "noise to signal" ratio is bad.

If Facebook/GooglePlus had ways to tag and filter out posts with certain tags it would be fine.
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i agree with alipstick. much like with internet explorer, justin bieber or the twilight series, complaining about people uploading pics of their food has become so banal it's shocking people still do it. what is there to say about it that hasn't been said a million times before? i'm honestly curious if anyone will come up with something.
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Complaining is one thing, i don't get bothered with it. I just don't get it. But hey, I am spamming my music everywhere so I should not complain
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well people have an innate need to communicate and share things with others. one person chooses to do it through blogging, another through music and another through amateur photography.

you could argue that the last person is the least creative of the 3, but there have always been people who are more creative than others in the world, it has nothing to do with smartphones.
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Photograph I don't mind - but I dont think the point of the food pics is that.
I mean it obviously is a photograph, but its not a selective composition, so much as a statement "look what I am eating!"

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Complaining is one thing, i don't get bothered with it. I just don't get it. But hey, I am spamming my music everywhere so I should not complain
But thats your own creation - to me that makes a lot more sense.

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No, but by voicing displeasure it hopefully, however small, discourages it being done - or makes people think of technical solutions to stop the problem.
As I said, tag filters would be a easy solution and everyone would win imho.

Remember also those pics arnt just "natural" - its not like someone yelling into space when no ones there to hear - they use up physical space on the page, and thus push more relevant posts down. Theres statistics somewhere that show people rarely look past there first page of facebook updates - so wasted space in your feed means other peoples posts are less likely to be read.
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No, but by voicing displeasure it hopefully, however small, discourages it being done - or makes people think of technical solutions to stop the problem.
As I said, tag filters would be a easy solution and everyone would win imho.

Remember also those pics arnt just "natural" - its not like someone yelling into space when no ones there to hear - they use up physical space on the page, and thus push more relevant posts down. Theres statistics somewhere that show people rarely look past there first page of facebook updates - so wasted space in your feed means other peoples posts are less likely to be read.
i don't think it's a problem though because my friends are generally funny and interesting. maybe it's time you get better quality friends?

all my family are off my news feed. if someone asked me about something i'd just say that i don't use facebook that often (which is the truth tbh).
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From my experience, if I care enough about someone to appear on my news feed and be concerned with knowing what they're talking about when they ask me "have you seen what I posted?", I'm at least somewhat interested in seeing what they have to say/show.

The quality of posting is a matter of taste. Personally I think posting your food can be nice quick trivia about someone's life, and I think it's less spammy than "hey listen to my new 3 minutes long music piece" or "hey watch my 20 minutes long review show".
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No, but by voicing displeasure it hopefully, however small, discourages it being done - or makes people think of technical solutions to stop the problem.
tbh i didn't know it was a "problem", as i couldn't care less about the matter.
i never really expected my facebook feed to be a source for pearls of wisdom in the first place. that said, if someone's posts get too tiresome i just set 'hide this user'.
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It just clogs up my feed. The "noise to signal" ratio is bad.
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I think it's less spammy than "hey listen to my new 3 minutes long music piece" or "hey watch my 20 minutes long review show".
Completely wrong. I'd rather see real things that actually took some effort of their own to make (as DF pointed out, if you made the food yourself, then it's a legitime trivia about someones skills), rather than generic things that would add nothing to my life whatsoever and forgotten the very next second.

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much like with internet explorer, justin bieber or the twilight series, complaining about people uploading pics of their food has become so banal it's shocking people still do it. what is there to say about it that hasn't been said a million times before? i'm honestly curious if anyone will come up with something.
My approach to this subject is fairly different.

I'm trying to pin-point needs that people have inside them, and were/are only hidden due to technological or other kind of restraints.

In the 90's (or even prior to that), to take a film or Polaroid camera to take a picture of a restaurant dish to show it to your friends later would seem utterly ridiculous and surely grant you a foolish status. Nowadays, it is very much accepted socially and lots of people STILL do it, despite being something everyone complains about like you said.

The food thing is just one example, the first that came to my head.
The point is to identify these needs people have; if we had holographic devices that could transform how you look at the push of a button and you could even download different holograms, probably the next Twilight or Justin Bieber thing like you mentioned would be people walking around the street with a pink unicorn hologram. Dunno.

I just find this very interesting - what is it you'd like to do, that the only reason you don't do is due to a technological restraint? with social networks suddenly there was a boom in getting to know the exact personality traits of different people, just by reading their posts, something that in the past would take long conversations and hanging around with the person.

Smartphones largely take part in this social change.

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ah i see. in that case, i'm eagerly awaiting the advent of penis augmentation technology.
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Completely wrong. I'd rather see real things that actually took some effort of their own to make (as DF pointed out, if you made the food yourself, then it's a legitime trivia about someones skills), rather than generic things that would add nothing to my life whatsoever and forgotten the very next second.
Completely wrong. I stated a sentence before that that it's a matter of taste, so my opinion on that matter can't be right or wrong. Besides just because something's original / took an effort, it doesn't mean it's worth seeing.
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But I find it much more interesting to see a friend posting about something realy cool that he MADE then something realy cool that he Bought. At least he put some effort on it, he spend some time doing something and he wants to show to us. I don't see anything wrong with that.

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Completely wrong. I'd rather see real things that actually took some effort of their own to make (as DF pointed out, if you made the food yourself, then it's a legitime trivia about someones skills), rather than generic things that would add nothing to my life whatsoever and forgotten the very next second.
completely wrong. your opinion is completely wrong because it contradicts mine, and as everyone knows i am the the bestest person ever who is the bestest at thinking and everything ever and bsaoifhjdjlsvs,dg;sggdbs

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really? 'cause from here it just seems like you're nitpicking modern internet culture. if that's genuinely what you're trying to do you're like, being super bad at it right now.

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In the 90's (or even prior to that), to take a film or Polaroid camera to take a picture of a restaurant dish to show it to your friends later would seem utterly ridiculous and surely grant you a foolish status. Nowadays, it is very much accepted socially and lots of people STILL do it, despite being something everyone complains about like you said.
1) maybe this is because... i don't know, possibly to do with the fact polaroid film cost a shit-ton of money and that instagram is like, free and unlimited and shit? i don't know, you tell me.

2) my parents often took pictures of their restaurant food while on holiday. we didn't grow up very well-off so eating at fancy, foreign places was a rare and special occasion for them.

have you literally never been to a restaurant and had a plate of something that looks so awesome/tasty that you just HAVE to show someone? i mean, 'cause if you haven't, you've never lived tbqf.

3) even as recently as secondary school for me, people would take entire photo albums in from their holidays and trips and show them around class. my extended family has mountains of developed photographs neatly packed away in their drawers. i don't see how sharing (mundane, in your opinion) photographs is some kind of big invention of the 21st century. it really isn't. it's just instant and much more affordable now.

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The food thing is just one example, the first that came to my head.
The point is to identify these needs people have; if we had holographic devices that could transform how you look at the push of a button and you could even download different holograms, probably the next Twilight or Justin Bieber thing like you mentioned would be people walking around the street with a pink unicorn hologram. Dunno.
i don't.... i have no idea.

seriously, what?

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Smartphones largely take part in this social change.
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3) even as recently as secondary school for me, people would take entire photo albums in from their holidays and trips and show them around class. my extended family has mountains of developed photographs neatly packed away in their drawers. i don't see how sharing (mundane, in your opinion) photographs is some kind of big invention of the 21st century. it really isn't. it's just instant and much more affordable now.
Ok, this is totally different. A Holiday trip is a much bigger deal compared to having a good meal on a fancy restaurant. Besides lasting longer, you are doing much more than just Eating. Specially if you will be visiting cool places, going to Parks and having a stay on a nice hotel. But of course, this also includes having a great time with your family or COOKING WITH 'EM. I'd say you can, at maximum, post a photo about a food that a family member cooked for you and you realy enjoyed. Because that's like publicly thanking them, which is a realy nice thing to do
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I am certainly not claiming its 21st century only! or cellphone only or anything fundamentally new I agree with that.
But it has got a lot worse. Which is kinda obvious really - photos are now basically free to take, no development, almost unlimited storage, instant communication.
All wonderful things really - but the result is even a small number of friends can overwhelm you with pics very quickly on a daily bases!
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I am certainly not claiming its 21st century only! or cellphone only or anything fundamentally new I agree with that.
But it has got a lot worse. Which is kinda obvious really - photos are now basically free to take, no development, almost unlimited storage, instant communication.
All wonderful things really - but the result is even a small number of friends can overwhelm you with pics very quickly on a daily bases!
We just adapt to quickly filter the stuff we like from what we don't.
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We just adapt to quickly filter the stuff we like from what we don't.
It still takes a lot of time to filter everything we want to read/see everyday. Before, I would find my friends posted 10 messages / photos at maximum per day. Now, I have to spend several minutes, maybe even hours checkign through what they posted...
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The quality of posting is a matter of taste. Personally I think posting your food can be nice quick trivia about someone's life, and I think it's less spammy than "hey listen to my new 3 minutes long music piece" or "hey watch my 20 minutes long review show".
I can't see how that is spamming. It's their page, they can post whatever they want. Besides, no one's pointing a gun at your head to force you to watch a video or listen to a something. Personally, I don't have many people in my friend list that actually post stuff they make, but I'm always eager to have a look. Art is meant to be shared.
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The quality of posting is a matter of taste. Personally I think posting your food can be nice quick trivia about someone's life, and I think it's less spammy than "hey listen to my new 3 minutes long music piece" or "hey watch my 20 minutes long review show".
Just now I saw this, but WUT
A music piece or a review is something that takes much more effort to make than a food... I don't think they are spammy at all, and they should never be considered as such. Unless, of course, someone is Spamming those on your facebook wall or whatever.
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I can't see how that is spamming. It's their page, they can post whatever they want. Besides, no one's pointing a gun at your head to force you to watch a video or listen to a something. Personally, I don't have many people in my friend list that actually post stuff they make, but I'm always eager to have a look. Art is meant to be shared.
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I am certainly not claiming its 21st century only! or cellphone only or anything fundamentally new I agree with that.
But it has got a lot worse. Which is kinda obvious really - photos are now basically free to take, no development, almost unlimited storage, instant communication.
All wonderful things really - but the result is even a small number of friends can overwhelm you with pics very quickly on a daily bases!
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Just now I saw this, but WUT
A music piece or a review is something that takes much more effort to make than a food... I don't think they are spammy at all, and they should never be considered as such. Unless, of course, someone is Spamming those on your facebook wall or whatever.
^ This.


And yeah, I should've phrased it "Completely disagree" rather than "Completely wrong" you nitpickers, whatev's.
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Spam is mostly about quantity. Seeing every hour "hey guys, have you listened/watched my new creation already?" can turn just as annoying as seeing lots of pictures of food.
My two points were that the pictures are most likely to be different every time, but the music/video won't as they take more time to make, so they can be just as spammy if not more; and that just because something's an original production that took an effort, it doesn't make it automatically good (just look at all kinds of bullshit "shows" on YouTube, and compare them to those funny shorts that tend to go viral), unless you're sucking up to your friends
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Completely wrong. I'd rather see real things that actually took some effort of their own to make (as DF pointed out, if you made the food yourself, then it's a legitime trivia about someones skills), rather than generic things that would add nothing to my life whatsoever and forgotten the very next second.


My approach to this subject is fairly different.

I'm trying to pin-point needs that people have inside them, and were/are only hidden due to technological or other kind of restraints.

In the 90's (or even prior to that), to take a film or Polaroid camera to take a picture of a restaurant dish to show it to your friends later would seem utterly ridiculous and surely grant you a foolish status. Nowadays, it is very much accepted socially and lots of people STILL do it, despite being something everyone complains about like you said.

The food thing is just one example, the first that came to my head.
The point is to identify these needs people have; if we had holographic devices that could transform how you look at the push of a button and you could even download different holograms, probably the next Twilight or Justin Bieber thing like you mentioned would be people walking around the street with a pink unicorn hologram. Dunno.

I just find this very interesting - what is it you'd like to do, that the only reason you don't do is due to a technological restraint? with social networks suddenly there was a boom in getting to know the exact personality traits of different people, just by reading their posts, something that in the past would take long conversations and hanging around with the person.

Smartphones largely take part in this social change.

That's my approach.
really? cause so far all i see is you saying "^ this." a lot.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SD8VO5q500#!
Watch from 0:42 to 0:52

btw, I stumbled upon that while watching this other video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS_zQw61PQE
I'm not subscribed to any of those channels, but I was laughing hysterically while watching the last video

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Good point, that was pretty awful and I wouldn't want to watch her poorly edited videos mentioning overly discussed matters, even though it's her own creation that took an effort.
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Again, I didn't like this video either. And if you see the later video, you notice that this girl makes some horrible fails on her other videos aswell (commentaries at least) u.u
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